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Do you have a copy of the inks, or the published page to compare to the pencils?
Sorry, I’m having difficulties with sizing my images. I will take down this unfinished post until I get it together. Then I will compare published pages and lambaste Colletta for shoddy inking
Thanks for posting the pencils and finished pages. When Colletta was good, he was GOOD. But he also produced a lot of subpar-looking stuff. I wouldn’t completely fault him because it’s not that he was a bad inker, it’s that he was a FAST inker. He was a guy they could count on in a crunch to delivered inked pages. I’ve heard stories of him inking entire books in a weekend. These Thor pages look really rushed, but at the same time I’ve seen Journey Into Mystery pages inked by him where the rendering would give Wally Wood a run for his money. So while the quality severely decreased the quicker he had to work, he was also the one whose task it was to get the books up to date and out on time to save the company money. And in an industry based on periodic media, meeting a deadline was more important than delivering high art.
Nice column, Norris. I was half expecting you to reverse your statement of defense by the end of it. I am unable to look at the finished product myself, and have a hard enough time with the pencils. Needless to say my favourite issue is 144, the one that’s fully available in pencil pages (plus a rejected cover with and without excellent Mike Royer inks). That too has its problems for me, however, because even before Vinnie sucked the life out of the pencils, Stan always did likewise for Kirby’s writing.
Ian Miller, your examples of Colletta’s deadline-meeting prowess sound suspiciously like they were borrowed from the biography of Jack, the master of turning work in on time. It’s heartbreaking to hear the suggestion that Vinnie’s speed was ever needed on Kirby’s books to meet a deadline. Fifty years on, I have the luxury of determining for myself the difference between high art and hackwork, and choosing not to surround myself with the latter. To paraphrase Metron, in that truth, you met a deadline, and forever lost a reader.
There’s a theory that particularly bad Colletta might be the work of assistants, but isn’t it equally plausible that the rare instances of passable Colletta would be the work of assistants?
Your instructive site has hit a great spot in me as a young tween these issues just seemed to be a strange amalgam of fine and a special comic and story art all its own. I find the inker’s simplification to be rather like a drummer’s or bassist’s job to support and suit the story or melody. Kirby’s art is amazing (did you notice batman in the top page crowd panel?) Look at the verbiage and the height and kind of action and I suspect it’s less a matter of speed – I see no errors at all – than of a conductor’s expression. It’s quite an opportunity to see the pencils after all these years…!