{"id":1773,"date":"2010-05-07T14:44:19","date_gmt":"2010-05-07T14:44:19","guid":{"rendered":"\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blog\/2010\/05\/07\/fumetto2010panel\/"},"modified":"2010-05-07T14:44:19","modified_gmt":"2010-05-07T14:44:19","slug":"fumetto2010panel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/2010\/05\/07\/fumetto2010panel\/","title":{"rendered":"Fumetto Panel Discussion &#8211; Nadel, Gravett, Hoppe"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve posted the slightly-longer-than-an-hour Kirby discussion that Dan Nadel, Paul Gravett and I had last Saturday at Fumetto on Livestream.com. (If YouTube approves the Kirby Museum&#8217;s Non-Profit application, I&#8217;ll move the video there.)<\/p>\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/IteIcys3-sQ?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent&#038;listType=playlist&#038;list=UU7A3MBhur6JWinw2i7kL0eg\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to acknowledge and thank Greg Theakston for gifting his Kirby papers to the Kirby Museum &#8211; these papers were the source for the Street Code and the V-mail included in the Fumetto exhibit.<\/p>\n<p>Having listened to the talk many times while preparing it for posting, I&#8217;m compelled to clarify and\/or correct:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Many pre-code comics were not &#8220;for adults, not kid stuff,&#8221; they were all-ages. An important distinction.<\/li>\n<li>Kirby&#8217;s wartime ailment was trenchfoot, not frostbite.<\/li>\n<li>The Fourth World wasn&#8217;t only &#8220;expensive&#8221; considering the sales level, affidavit fraud by distributors contributed to the low sales levels used in that equation.<\/li>\n<li>I should not have included Bob Powell along with Joe Orlando and Wally Wood regarding artists&#8217; concerns about being paid for writing the comics via their pencil artwork.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>That&#8217;s Tom Morehouse speaking from the audience a few times. Tom Kraft manned the video camera. The last question, about Kirby&#8217;s output, is asked by Fabrice Stroun.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks again to Fumetto, Dan and Paul.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve posted the slightly-longer-than-an-hour Kirby discussion that Dan Nadel, Paul Gravett and I had last Saturday at Fumetto on Livestream.com. (If YouTube approves the Kirby Museum&#8217;s Non-Profit application, I&#8217;ll move the video there.)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to acknowledge and thank Greg Theakston for gifting his Kirby papers to the Kirby Museum &#8211; these papers were the source for the Street Code and the V-mail included in the Fumetto exhibit.<\/p>\n<p>Having listened to the talk many times while preparing it for posting, I&#8217;m compelled to clarify and\/or correct:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Many pre-code comics were not &#8220;for adults, not kid stuff,&#8221; they were all-ages. An important distinction.<\/li>\n<li>Kirby&#8217;s wartime ailment was trenchfoot, not frostbite.<\/li>\n<li>The Fourth World wasn&#8217;t only &#8220;expensive&#8221; considering the sales level, affidavit fraud by distributors contributed to the low sales levels used in that equation.<\/li>\n<li>I should not have included Bob Powell along with Joe Orlando and Wally Wood regarding artists&#8217; concerns about being paid for writing the comics via their pencil artwork.<\/ul>\n<p>That&#8217;s Tom Morehouse speaking from the audience a few times. Tom Kraft manned the video camera. The last question, about Kirby&#8217;s output, is asked by Fabrice Stroun.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks again to Fumetto, Dan and Paul.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1773","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1773","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1773"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1773\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1773"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1773"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/effect\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1773"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}