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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 34, A New Prize Title</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(May &#8211; December 1957: Young Romance #88 &#8211; #91, All For Love #2 &#8211; #5, Personal Love #1 &#8211; #2)
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<p>This serial post has now entered the period after the crash and near collapse of the comic book industry. Prize Comics was never a big publisher but these must have been particularly difficult times. At the start of this period Prize was only publishing three bi-monthly titles Justice Traps the Guilty, Young Romance and the new released All For Love. In September they would also release another new romance title, Personal Love. Like All For Love, Personal Love was not produced by Simon and Kirby. The annual postal statements list Joe Genalo as the editor and the contents seem somewhat different from that found in Young Romance. The artists used also seemed to be different as well, at least during this period. Jack Kirby appeared in three of the four issues of Young Romance covered by this post but did no work for All For Love or Personal Love. Lou Cameron played an important part in Young Romance #89 and #90 but he does not appear in the other Prize romance titles. On the other hand Ted Galindo appears frequently in All For Love and Personal Love but he does not show up in these issue of Young Romance.</p>
<p>Since at this time Kirby was freelancing for DC and Atlas, it is clear that he and Joe were no longer running their old studio. So the question becomes how Young Romance was actually produced. While previously there can be found examples of Jack in his roll as an art editor stepping in to fix up some parts of stories supplied by other artists or provide a splash page, I have seen no examples of that practice in the period from 1957 to 1960. On the other hand the annual postal statements still listed both Simon and Kirby as editors up to 1960. My suspicion is that Jack really was not involved in the editorial work for Young Romance and it was Joe who was really producing the title. Not that I believe this effort took much of Joe&#8217;s time; it was only a single bi-monthly title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2998" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR091WaitingGame.jpg" alt="Young Romance #91" width="500" height="741" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;The Waiting Game&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Jack Kirby provided art for three of the four issues of Young Romance during this period. However all were rather short pieces (1, 4 and 5 pages) and only one of them was the lead feature (a position often reserved for Jack in the past). All were nicely done but hardly very remarkable (for Kirby). Jack did not inked any of the pieces but one of them &#8220;The Waiting Game&#8221; looks very much like it was inked by Marvin Stein. Not the blunt but still subtle handling of the face of the man in the background of the splash. Of particular significance is the handling of the lady in the first story panel. She share a rather distorted perspective that I find hard to describe but is so often seen in Stein&#8217;s own work when a head is viewed from above and to the side. I am not as confident that Stein inked the other two Kirby stories but he could have.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2997" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR091LiveAlone.jpg" alt="Young Romance #91" width="500" height="734" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;Live Alone and Love It&#8221;, art by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Marvin Stein not only inked a work for Jack Kirby but he penciled and inked his own story for Young Romance. I have remarked before how I find Stein&#8217;s style more appropriate for the crime genre than it was for romance. His &#8220;Live Alone and Love It&#8221; seems done in a particularly blunt manner even for Stein. Note the simplified eyebrows of the lady on this page, very reminiscent of the inking found in some of the Kirby pieces, another reason to possibly attribute to Marvin some of the more recent inking of Kirby&#8217;s art. Stein was an exception in that he appeared not only in Young Romance but also All For Love and Personal Love as well. However prior to this he also was one of the very few artists that worked on both Simon and Kirby productions along with the titles not produced by that pair.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2996" title="Young Romance #89" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR089PalJoannie.jpg" alt="Young Romance #89" width="500" height="736" /><br />
Young Romance #89 (August 1957) &#8220;Pal Joannie&#8221;, art by Lou Cameron</p>
<p>Lou Cameron, an artist new for Young Romance, played an important part in issues #89 and #90 supplying 5 stories. His work was really excellent; great graphic story telling and beautifully drawn women. Like some of the other younger artists new to the title, Lou drew in what I would describe as a more modern style. I am not that familiar with Cameron&#8217;s art but he also work for Atlas, DC and St. John Publishing. I am not sure what to attribute his sudden abundant appearance and just as quick disappearance in Young Romance but he is one of the artists that I wish had made a longer contribution to the title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/YR091Colletta001.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="739" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;That Certain Something&#8221;, art by Vince Colletta</p>
<p>Young Romance #91 included the only appearance of Vince Colletta in a Simon and Kirby production. Colletta did a lot of work for Atlas, much of it romance art. However he is most famous as the inker that Kirby fans love to hate. Mostly this is due to his habit of erasing some of Kirby&#8217;s pencils to speed up the inking. Oddly Colletta has a small but very vocal group of supporters who I refer to as Colletta apologists. According to the Colletta apologists, Vince was the greatest romance artist who worked in a realistic style. While I admire Colletta&#8217;s romance art, neither of these assertions are true. I have never heard anyone other than a Colletta apologists claim Vince as their favorite romance artist and as far as I can tell Colletta apologists otherwise have no interest in romance art. And while his woman are beautiful they are not truly realistic. This is fortunate because I do not believe true realism would be appropriate for comic books. For my part, while I find Colletta&#8217;s women beautiful, I also find them to lack any individuality. The only distinction found between individual examples are the hair styles and clothes. Still he is another of those artists that I wish provided more work for Young Romance.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2995" title="Young Romance #89" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR089RockABye.jpg" alt="Young Romance #89" width="500" height="744" /><br />
Young Romance #89 (August 1957) &#8220;Rock-A-Bye To Love&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>In these last few chapters of the Art of Romance, I do not plan to discuss all the artists that appear in the Prize titles. Frankly most of them are not that great and I am so far unable to identify them. That is not to say that they are totally uninteresting. This is a period of transition for Young Romance as the title tries to maintain its appeal with a more modern audience. Hence the inclusion of rock-and-roll in some of the stories. However there is a tendency for rock music to be judged somewhat negatively.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2994" title="All For Love #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL02MyDestiny.jpg" alt="All For Love #2" width="500" height="736" /><br />
All For Love #2 (June 1957) &#8220;My Destiny&#8221;, art by Mort Meskin</p>
<p>Mort Meskin provides two stories for All For Love #2 (June 1957). Both works appear to have been inked by Mort as well. As far as the art is concerned the work is nicely done but does not differ much, if at all, from the romance work that Mort did up until the end of 1955. It is not the art that is a cause for a surprise but his appearance in a Prize comic. As I wrote, his romance work was about a year and a half prior to this but his art appeared in the Prize crime titles for a few months further (March 1956). His last work for Prize Comics Western was for the July 1956 issue. Then suddenly these two stories in All For Love and then Meskin disappears from further Prize comics. I suspect that Prize offered much lower page rates than what DC did which is where Meskin was doing most of his work at this time. But it is suggestive that it was in All For Love that Meskin appeared and not Young Romance which was still being produced by Simon and Kirby. In any case I believe this was the last romance comic book art that Mort Meskin would ever create.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2993" title="All For Love #3" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL03VoiceOfLove.jpg" alt="All For Love #3" width="500" height="699" /><br />
All For Love #3 (August 1957) &#8220;The Voice of Love&#8221;, art by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>As mentioned above, Marvin Stein was one of the few artists appearing in Young Romance as well as All For Love or Personal Love. If anything, the art for &#8220;The Voice of Love&#8221; shown above is more carefully drawn than that from Young Romance #91.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2992" title="All For Love #3" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL03TheMatch.jpg" alt="All For Love #3" width="500" height="742" /><br />
All For Love #3 (August 1957) &#8220;The Match&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>Ted Galindo provided work for all the Prize titles at this time except for Young Romance. Ted had previously drawn a story for Foxhole which, to be frank, was really not that well done. His romance work was much better, most likely because he now was a more experienced comic book artist. I feel the best work he was doing at this time appeared in Justice Traps the Guilty which will be the subject of a future chapter to <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/category/serial-posts/criminal-artists">Criminal Artists</a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2991" title="All For Love #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL02.jpg" alt="All For Love #2" width="431" height="652" /><br />
All For Love #2 (June 1957), art by J.O.</p>
<p>Some of the Prize titles during this period had cover art signed only as JO. No interior stories bear that signature and as far as I can seen none of the unsigned pieces were by this artist. The covers are very well done and indicate that this is a talented artist. I have only begun investigating whom this might be and have not reached any but the most tenuous conclusions. Although I have as yet no good evidence to back it up, I wonder if this might be by Joe Orlando.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2990" title="Personal Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PL01AboutLove.jpg" alt="Personal Love #1" width="500" height="688" /><br />
Personal Love #1 (September 1957), &#8220;The Truth About Love&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>I could not resist including another romance story from this period with a rock-n-roll reference. In the background of the splash can be seen a singer playing an acoustic guitar. That, plus the lyrics he sings, clearly were meant to be a reference to Elvis Presley who was very popular at that time (and since).</p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 33, End of an Era</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(November 1956 &#8211; April 1957: Young Romance #85 &#8211; #87, Young Love #73, Young Brides #30, All For Love #1)

Number of Romance titles 1947 &#8211; 1958 (the period covered in this chapter is shaded in blue)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(November 1956 &#8211; April 1957: Young Romance #85 &#8211; #87, Young Love #73, Young Brides #30, All For Love #1)</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2945" title="Number of Romance titles 1947 - 1958" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ChartYR85_87.jpg" alt="Number of Romance titles 1947 - 1958" width="500" height="309" /><br />
Number of Romance titles 1947 &#8211; 1958 (the period covered in this chapter is shaded in blue)</p>
<p>We now come to the end of the all Kirby Price romance comics and transition into a new and significantly different period of Prize Comics. Young Brides #30 (November 1956) and Young Romance #85 (December 1956) qualify as all-Kirby comics but only half of Young Love #73 (December 1956) was drawn by Kirby with the rest of the art done by Bill Draut. Unfortunately the comic book crash had finally caught up to Prize Comics. Young Love #73 and Young Brides #30 would be the final issues of those two titles although Young Love would be resurrected in 1960. At the point of cancellation Prize Comics would only be publishing three titles; Young Romance, Justice Traps the Guilty and Prize Comics Western. Since all were bi-monthlies this was a rather small line-up even for such a small company.</p>
<p>Starting with issue #86, Young Romance was a very changed title. The annual postal statements still listed Joe Simon and Jack Kirby as the editors but whatever working arrangement the two had it clearly was not the same as before. Kirby had started doing freelance work for DC and Atlas while Simon was doing some editorial work for Harvey Comics. Most, but not all, issues would include art drawn by Jack Kirby. Previously cover art was typically done by Kirby alone but now most covers would be done by other artists. The biggest change that came over the title was the largely complete absence of the earlier S&amp;K Studio artists. Artists who previously played prominent rolls in the title such as Bill Draut, Mort Meskin, John Prentice and Bob McCarty would never again appear in Young Romance. The fact that some of these artists would show up in Prize romance titles not edited by Simon and Kirby suggests that there may have been some hard feelings between the artists and their former employers.</p>
<p>The change in Prize Comics was not a complete retreat but rather a reorganization. In April 1957 Prize came out with a new romance title, All For Love. It may seem strange to cancel two romance titles only to start up a new one. The answer is suggested by the Postal Statements which list Joe Genalo as the editor for All For Love. Prize not only wanted a new title, they particularly did not want Simon and Kirby to produce it.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2944" title="Young Romance #85" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR085BackInTown.jpg" alt="Young Romance #85" width="500" height="698" /><br />
Young Romance #85 (December 1956) &#8220;Lizzie&#8217;s Back In Town&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, YR #85 was one of the issues that was drawn entirely by Jack Kirby. While the story art was often first rate, the splashes frequently left something to be desired. At least compared to the work Kirby had done in earlier years. The splash for &#8220;Lizzie&#8217;s Back In Town&#8221; is a good example of this. There is nothing wrong with the splash and granted it was probably a challenge to instill interest into some standing figures, but it was just this sort of romance splash that earlier Kirby was so good at. I suspect Kirby was just trying to do too much romance art in too little time. Some interesting splashes will be found in the future issues when Jack had returned to a more measured output of romance stories.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2943" title="Young Romance #86" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR086Reject.jpg" alt="Young Romance #86" width="500" height="733" /><br />
Young Romance #86 (February 1957) &#8220;Reject&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There are exceptions to lackluster splashes. I certainly like the one for &#8220;Reject&#8221;. This is not because of the subject matter because once again all there is are some standing figures. Nor is it the how well the art was handled; I suspect the original pencils were much better than what was left after the inker got finished with it. I think what appeals to me is the characterizations of the players; the stern central figure and the gossipers in the background. I also like the way the title of the story is placed on a placard worn by the lady.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2942" title="Young Brides #30" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YB30UnhappyHousewife.jpg" alt="Young Brides #30" width="500" height="734" /><br />
Young Brides #30 (November 1956) &#8220;The Unhappy Housewife&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There seems to have been one inker used for all the works penciled by Kirby during this period and a good portion of the art from the all-Kirby romance issues. In the past I had considered it likely that the inker was Marvin Stein. I have heard others advance Bill Draut and Joe Simon as candidates. During the review for this chapter I have come to the conclusion that I am just not sure who he was. In some places it looks like Bill Draut, other Marvin Stein or even Joe Simon. But I also feel it is quite possible that it was someone else entirely.</p>
<p>One interesting feature of the inking of the splash for &#8220;The Unhappy Housewife&#8221; is the presence of picket fence crosshatching (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). This technique was once a staple of the inking of Kirby pencils during much of the Simon and Kirby collaboration. Part of what I refer to as the Studio style inking. Picket fence crosshatching appears on some of the covers from this period but is largely absent in the stories.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2941" title="Young Romance #85" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR085ResortRomeo2.jpg" alt="Young Romance #85" width="500" height="740" /><br />
Young Romance #85 (December 1956) &#8220;Resort Romeo&#8221; page 2, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The inking of eyebrows during this period were often done in a simplified but exaggerated manner. The women in panel 5 of the page shown above is a good example. There is some resemblance between these eyebrows and those used by Bill Draut which is the main reason to suggest Draut was the inker for these Kirby pencils. Unfortunately I cannot find any other evidence to support crediting Draut as Kirby&#8217;s inker during this period. But I will return to this subject below.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2940" title="Young Romance #87" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR087RockNRoll4.jpg" alt="Young Romance #87" width="500" height="739" /><br />
Young Romance #87 (April 1957) &#8220;Rock n&#8217; Roll Sweetheart&#8221; page 4, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Note the inking of the man&#8217;s face in the last panel from page 4 of &#8220;Rock n&#8217; Roll Sweetheart&#8221;. The black shadow down one side of the face is what I refer to as negative highlights. I have never seen Bill Draut use negative highlights but Marvin Stein did and his looked very much like this example. Because the inking evidence does not consistantly suggest one inker, I have decided to no longer attribute the inking to Marvin Stein and for now leave it as an open question.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2939" title="Young Love #73" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YL73Homecoming.jpg" alt="Young Love #73" width="500" height="735" /><br />
Young Love #73 (December 1956) &#8220;Soldier&#8217;s Homecoming&#8221;, pencils and inks by Bill Draut</p>
<p>Bill Draut provided two of the four stories from the final issue of Young Love. The style is similar to that he was using just prior to the start of the all-Kirby run. However even that was somewhat different from his earlier work. This is most notably seen in the clothing folds which earlier had been somewhat splotchy but now where cleaner and more streamlined.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2938" title="Young Romance #86" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR086EasyWayOut.jpg" alt="Young Romance #86" width="500" height="737" /><br />
Young Romance #86 (February 1957) &#8220;I Took The Easy Way Out&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>The first issue (YR #87) of Young Romance after the cancellation of Young Love and Young Brides had only a single Kirby story. Oddly the other three stories were all done by the same artist. He is not a bad artist, but I do not believe I have seen him in a Simon and Kirby production before. It is a puzzle why he suddenly achieved such dominance in this romance title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2937" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01DreamWedding.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="697" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;Dream Wedding&#8221;, art by Bill Draut</p>
<p>As mentioned above, the new Prize romance title All For Love, was not produced by Simon and Kirby. One of the things I will be looking for in future chapters of the Art of Romance was whether the same artists would appear in Young Romance and the Prize titles that were not produced by Simon and Kirby. One artist that shows up in the first issue is Bill Draut. Not only does Draut provide a story but he did the cover art as well. Here Bill is working in the same style we saw Young Romance #86 (February 1957).</p>
<p>Bill had also been appearing in some of the Harvey romance titles at this time which I believe were edited by Joe Simon. But it is unclear whether these were new stories or reprints of older material. In any case work by Draut for Harvey would end at this same time. Draut would not work with Joe Simon on comics until 1966. Bill did work on Sick but right now I am not sure when that was.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2936" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01HallowVictory3.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="740" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; page 3, art by Mort Meskin?</p>
<p>There are two stories in All For Love #1 that I am somewhat uncertain about. I some ways &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; reminds me of the work of Mort Meskin. The way the eyebrows are inked might suggest Bill Draut but the story lacks any of Draut&#8217;s mannerisms of graphically telling the story, in particular the body language depicted and how the use of view points. Meskin is a better fit in just these graphic qualities. However if this was drawn by Mort I am certain it was not inked by him. Some of the inking reminds me of the unidentified inker for Kirby that I discussed above.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2935" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01MyWishfulHeart.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="737" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;My Wishful Heart&#8221;, art by Bill Draut?</p>
<p>&#8220;My Wishful Heart&#8221; is the other story that I questionably attribute to Mort Meskin. Although not identical to &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; it is close enough to suggest it was done by the same artist.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2933" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01CheatingMyself.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="740" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;I Was Only Cheating Myself&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>The only other romance artist from this period that I can identify other than Jack Kirby, Bill Draut and possibly Mort Meskin was Ted Galindo. Ted does a real nice job on his romance stories. His women are attractive and his art style more modern than most of the artists that I have discussed so far. Galindo&#8217;s use of changing viewpoints keeps his stories graphically interesting. we will be seeing more of his work</p>
<p>We are now coming into the final period covered by the Art of Romance. It was always my intention to take this serial post up to 1960. However I am really uncertain how many chapters remain. Frankly overall I find the Prize romance titles from this point on the least interesting of the series. If not for the presence of Jack Kirby I might be tempted to cover it in some future serial post. But there is some really great Kirby art, much of it inked by Jack himself. Plus some other interesting artists appeared from time to time.</p>
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		<title>Questions on Some Inking in Adventures of the Fly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently posted on the initial issues of the Adventures of the Fly (here and here . There are still unidentified artists that penciled those issues (and more in the two Fly issues that followed). Identifying inkers is an even bigger challenged particularly because I am not that familiar with the brushwork of most of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently posted on the initial issues of the Adventures of the Fly (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2580">here</a> and <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2592">here </a>. There are still unidentified artists that penciled those issues (and more in the two Fly issues that followed). Identifying inkers is an even bigger challenged particularly because I am not that familiar with the brushwork of most of the possible inkers. However I recently noticed some inking in the Adventures of the Fly that was very familiar.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2685" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2SneakAttack2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="1092" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; page 2 (part), pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>When I last wrote about <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2592">&#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221;</a> I attributed the pencils to Joe Simon. Well that was not the complete attribution. The bottom of the second page was an advertisement for the other Archie superhero comic, Double Life of Private Strong. The only art the ad contains is a standing figure of Private Strong changing into the Shield. It seems clear that the art was drawn by Jack Kirby. It is odd that the story and ad were done by different artists. I have studied the original art from Joe Simon&#8217;s collection and I can assure the reader that no cut and paste was performed to accomplish this.</p>
<p>The inking for the ad was really nicely done but unfortunately the details of which are obscured by rather poor printing. It is hard to see but the inner sides of both thighs were inked using picket fence crosshatching (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). The good news is that in the upcoming Simon and Kirby Superheroes volume from Titan &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; and the other stories I will be discussing here will be restored from the original art. Similarly robust picket fence brushwork was one of the characteristics of what I refer to as the Studio Style inking used during the Simon and Kirby collaboration. Not only did both Joe and Jack use this technique at that time but Mort Meskin did as well. I think, however, we can dismiss Meskin as the possible inker for the ad because he was no longer working with either Kirby or Simon and the inking here is a bit more spontaneous than was normal for Mort.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2682" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MarcosEyes1closeup.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="352" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; splash (part), pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The spotting of the large figure of the Fly in the double page splash for &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes is more finely worked than typical for either Simon or Kirby although either of them was certainly capable of it. Actually it is more finely worked than the inking found in any of the Fly art. So far I have not identified any brushwork in the figure that helps in determining an inking attribution.</p>
<p><img title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MarcosEyes4.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="715" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; page 4, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The story art for &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; shows an important characteristic that was typical of Studio style inking, what I refer to as shoulder blots (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). It is prominently shown in panels 2, 3 and 5 from page 4 but occurs elsewhere in the story as well. Numerous inkers have provided their shoulders with shadows but shoulder blots are distinct in that they occur on both shoulders regardless of how a shadow would expect to be cast. So far I have only seen Joe Simon and Jack Kirby make use of shoulder blots in their inking.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2681" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MasterOfJunkRiLa2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="718" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; page 2, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There are no shoulder blots in &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; unless the shadow in panel 4 from page 2 is counted as one (but I am not inclined to do so). There are, however, a number of examples of course picket fence crosshatching. The first panel from page 2 shows a scallop pattern to the shadow on the boy&#8217;s arm. This scallop inking frequently showed up in Kirby&#8217;s inking. But the inking of the eyes and eyebrows of the boy look very much like the work of Simon.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2679" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF1ComeIntoMyParlor1pn3_4.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="250" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221; story panels 3 and 4 from the double page splash, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The double page splash and accompanying story panels of &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221; also contains what looks like Studio style inking. Particularly note the spotting of the sailor from story panels 3 and 4. Observe the two cloth folds on the man&#8217;s shoulder in panel 4. These cloth folds show no indication of the tip of the brush which is a technique that was typical of Kirby&#8217;s inking. I am less convinced about the inking of the rest of the story. It should be kept in mind that it was common during the Simon and Kirby collaboration for Kirby to be involved with the spotting of the splash and leave the rest of the story to other inkers.</p>
<p>Studio style inking techniques are not limited to the four stories that I have discussed here. But their occurrence elsewhere in the first two issues of Adventures of the Fly seems limited to what looks like touch-ups of the work by other inkers. Such touch-up were almost certainly the work of Simon since Kirby was then a freelancer working from his house.</p>
<p>I only become confident about inking attributions after I have &#8220;lived&#8221; with them for some time. However it is my policy to present my current views in this blog even if they are likely to be subject to change. At this time I believe &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; was inked by Joe Simon. I am also fairly certain that Jack Kirby inked the splash pages of &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221;. I am less confident about the inking attributions for the ad from &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; or &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;. I currently am crediting Kirby for that inking but I am bother about the frequent appearance of the tip of the brush in the inking which previously was not typical for Kirby although it was for Simon.</p>
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		<title>More Kirby Krackle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
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Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby
In a comment to my previous post (Kirby Krackle) Ger Apeldoorn remarked on the existence of another Kirby Krackle prototype. Unfortunately Ger was unable to provide the specific comic that it appeared in. Perhaps he meant the one that was [...]]]></description>
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Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>In a comment to my previous post (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2600">Kirby Krackle</a>) Ger Apeldoorn remarked on the existence of another Kirby Krackle prototype. Unfortunately Ger was unable to provide the specific comic that it appeared in. Perhaps he meant the one that was recently brought to my attention (thanks CL), &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; from Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957). The Kirby Krackle prototype also appears on the cover (which Kirby did as well) but I find the splash page a better example of this technique. I have previously dismissed some of the supposed Kirby Krackle prototypes (based on techniques used to indicate smoke), but how does this new (for me) contender stack up? Well it is composed of rounded (but not circular) spots, there is a tendency to form clusters, they are meant to depict energy (although more of a simmering than a high energy) and there is a cosmic connection (he is after all an alien). So while it is not perfect Kirby Krackle it is so close to the real thing that it makes a perfect prototype.</p>
<p>When I wrote a serial post on Kirby&#8217;s Austere and related inking styles I included a chapter on his DC work (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/897">Jack Kirby&#8217;s Austere Inking, Chapter 7</a>). Unfortunately at the time I had access to a limited portion of that work and so I could only make some provisional conclusions. Now I am able to examine a much better selection of Kirby&#8217;s DC material but I have yet to do a careful review so my observations must still be considered as tentative. My belief is that the art for &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; as well of the cover was inked by Jack Kirby himself. Perhaps the best indications that this was Kirby&#8217;s inking can be found in the last panel of the image provided above. Observe the rather blunt but well controlled brushwork, the scalloped inking pattern own the man&#8217;s shoulder and the use of short brushwork arranged into strings. So the credit, if the reader accepts this as a true Kirby Krackle prototype, belongs to Kirby.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2612" title="Tales of the Unexpected #18" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KirbyKrackleTU18_3_5.jpg" alt="Tales of the Unexpected #18" width="450" height="430" /><br />
Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; page 3 panel 5, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>As I described above, the Kirby Krackle prototype surrounding the alien figure is used to describe a simmering energy and not the high energy that true Kirby Krackle depicts. The lower energy level drawn by Jack is quite appropriate for his subject. However the story includes art where much higher energy levels are shown, as for example the panel from page 3 shown above. As can be seen this Kirby Krackle prototype is even closer to the real thing. The dots are more irregular in size and they form more obvious clusters. Personally I cannot see how anyone could claim this is not a perfectly good prototype from which true Krackle was developed.</p>
<p><img title="Tales of the Unexpected #18" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KirbyKrackleTU18_5_5.jpg" alt="Tales of the Unexpected #18" width="450" height="408" /><br />
Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; page 5 panel 5, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>I cannot resist providing another panel to show that my previous example of the Kirby Krackle prototype was no accident. While I fully accept this as a prototype, that by no means negates my claim that the example I provided from Captain 3-D (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2600">Kirby Krackle</a>) was a Krackle prototype. Far from it, I believe it only strengthens my claim. The DC example is just what would be expected as a step intermediate between the earlier Captain 3-D (1954) and the full blown Krackle that Jack started using in 1968. Only small changes needed to go from the primitive version from Captain 3-D to the better (but still not perfect) version in the DC story. This means that I still maintain that Joe Simon was probably responsible for originating what would later become called Kirby Krackle.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Tim O&#8217;Casey&#8217;s Wrecking Crew&#8221;, pencils by unidentified artist
If a young boy can be transformed into a fully costumed adult superhero with a magic ring, why not have a leprechaun as an opponent? Not strange enough? Well then give the leprechaun some giant robots to play with. The only [...]]]></description>
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Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Tim O&#8217;Casey&#8217;s Wrecking Crew&#8221;, pencils by unidentified artist</p>
<p>If a young boy can be transformed into a fully costumed adult superhero with a magic ring, why not have a leprechaun as an opponent? Not strange enough? Well then give the leprechaun some giant robots to play with. The only thing missing in this delightful story is Jack Kirby. Too bad because I am sure Jack would have added his own personal touches and transformed it into a masterpiece.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2597" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2IsMissing3.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="708" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;One of Our Skyscrapers is Missing&#8221; page 3, pencils by Al Williamson</p>
<p>Al Williamson was already a talented comic artist when he did &#8220;One of Our Skyscrapers is Missing&#8221; for this issue. And I have little doubt that he did this story. The various monsters that inhabit these pages all possess the Williamson touch. If Williamson was working from layouts, he took great liberties with them. His panel layouts are the most interesting ones found in either the Shield or the Fly. Further his artwork is far superior to the other artists working on the Archie superheroes that I have reviewed so far with the sole exception of Jack Kirby. That said the art for this story is really far below his best efforts. The work Al did for Race for the Moon the previous year was much superior.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2596" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2SneakAttack1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>&#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; is another of the pieces that generally get attributed to Jack Kirby but were actually drawn by Joe Simon. The reason for this misattribution is a credit to Joe&#8217;s skills at mimicking Jack&#8217;s style, often with the help of plenty of swipes. The pilot with the funny head gear was swiped from Kirby&#8217;s &#8220;Hot Box&#8221; (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/715">Foxhole #2</a>). However it shows that Joe is not just copying Kirby as the head is in full frontal view instead of the 3/4 profile that Jack drew.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2595" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MarcosEyesS.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="356" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MarcosEyesL.jpg">Larger Image</a></p>
<p>It is an old theme, but Kirby frequently returns to previous themes and improves upon them. In this case it is the idea of a stage performer using his power of hypnosis as a means of conducting crime. The earliest predecessor was probably an untitled story about sometimes called &#8220;Sando and Omar&#8221; from Captain America #1 (March 1941). &#8220;Marco’s Eyes&#8221; has some nice art and all in all a good effort, but certainly not among the better Simon and Kirby&#8217;s work. The double page splash is perhaps the weakest that S&amp;K ever did. This is unfortunate since it is also the last the two would work on together.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2593" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MasterOfJunkRiLa1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="717" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>While I would hardly call &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La a masterpiece, it is a much better work than &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;. It does however contain some humor that might not be appreciated by many modern superhero fans used to bleaker tales. For instance the villain uses a giant fly swatter against the Fly.</p>
<p>The two stories in Adventures of the Fly #2 would be the last collaboration between Joe Simon and Jack Kirby for many years. The Jack Kirby Checklist includes &#8220;Muggy&#8217;s Masterpiece&#8221; from Adventures of the Fly #4 but that is clearly incorrect. Even the way the Archie superheroes were created made them more of a Simon effort than a Kirby one. Still the two had worked together in one form or another for a period of about 18 years. There may have been other comic book collaborations that were longer but there were none there were better. Or at least that is my opinion. But I may be biased; after all this is the Simon and Kirby Blog.</p>
<p>Since this is Kirby&#8217;s last work on the Fly I thought I would briefly touch on the part that it played in the creation of Spider-Man. Others have written in great depths about this issue but here I will only provide a brief outline of the events. Joe Simon, C. C. Beck and Jack Oleck got together in 1953 or 1954 to create a new superhero. Initially the name Spiderman was considered and Joe even created a logo using that name, but in the end the character was called the Silver Spider. Joe took the initial artwork by Beck and pitched the idea to Harvey Comics but they declined to publish it. Years later Archie Comics approached Simon to create some new superheroes and Joe came up with a new Shield and the Fly. Joe retrieved Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider art work from Harvey and sent it off to Jack to use as reference when he drew most of the art for the initial issues published in 1959. In 1962 Stan Lee worked initially with Kirby to create Spider-Man but in the end turned to Steve Ditko to provide the art. The work that Kirby did on Spider-Man has never been published but Ditko later described Kirby&#8217;s version as looking like the Fly.</p>
<p>The main source of contention about the creation of Spider-Man concerns not so much the history as the interpretation of that history. The most common subject of disagreement is whether Stan Lee and Steve Ditko should be considered the joint creators or if Jack Kirby should be included as well. While I have provided a broad history behind the creation of Spider-Man that I believe most comic scholars would largely accept there are numerous details that scholars seem unable to agree on. Even as simple a concept as the term creator turns out to have very different meanings depending on who is using it. I will not try to advance my own opinion as to who should be credited for creating Spider-Man. I prefer to let each reader come to their own conclusions. But I find it incomprehensible how some insist on crediting Jack Kirby as a Spider-Man creator while excluding Joe Simon.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Strange New World of the Fly&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby
Recently I posted about Jack Kirby&#8217;s work on the origin story of Private Strong, aka the Shield. In Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) Jack also had the honors of doing the same for the other new [...]]]></description>
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Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Strange New World of the Fly&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Recently I posted about Jack Kirby&#8217;s work on the origin story of Private Strong, aka the Shield. In Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) Jack also had the honors of doing the same for the other new Archie hero, the Fly. Only in this case Kirby based the story on art that C. C. Beck did for the unpublished Silver Spider. Some have called the Silver Spider a Simon and Kirby creation but that simply is not true. Kirby had nothing to do with the Silver Spider which was a creation of Joe Simon, C. C. Beck and Jack Oleck. When I previously discussed the Silver Spider (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/183">The End of Simon &amp; Kirby, Chapter 10, A Fly in the Mix</a>) I dated this creation as 1953. To be honest I no longer remember where I got that date but it is not an unreasonable one. This would put it during the time of the Simon and Kirby collaborations but in &#8220;The Comic Book Maker&#8221; Joe writes about how the Silver Spider was created as a favor to Beck. An examination of xerox copies of the original art confirms Kirby&#8217;s absence.</p>
<p>Tommy Troy was an orphan like Lancelot Strong but the resemblance ends there. We meet Tommy in an orphanage but he ends up hired out to an elderly couple. Not kindly Kent-like farmers, but a mean, elderly couple with a reputation of dabbling in magic. Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider story had included a genie to add an element of humor, but Kirby has dispensed with him. However concept of a young boy who transforms into an adult superhero was Beck&#8217;s who repeated it from Captain Marvel.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2585" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1TheFlyStrikes1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="718" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>Just like in Private Strong, the origin story for the Fly is actually told in a series of separate stories. The first one ends with the Tommy Troy being given a magic ring and transforming into the Fly. The second, &#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221;, tells of the Fly&#8217;s first combat against criminals. This second story is actually based on the end of the origin story that Beck drew.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221; is generally credited to Jack Kirby but I am not convinced. I suspect that it is another case of Joe Simon swiping from and imitating Kirby. Joe was particularly good at doing this. Note the Fly peering into the window in the second story panel. This is a swipe from Fighting American #1 (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1797">Captain America Returns</a>). I have no indications that Kirby was working from layouts in the stories that he did for this issue. Nor do I believe Jack would bother to swipe from himself. Why would he when he could do it much faster without a swipe? So as I said I believe this story was actually done by Simon.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2584" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1BuzzGun1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="708" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Buzz Gun&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>While the origin story came from Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider and the Fly&#8217;s powers seemed to be based on directives from Joe Simon, the Fly&#8217;s costume is derived from the Night Fighter, a Simon and Kirby creation that was considered for Joe and Jack&#8217;s publishing company, Mainline, but never used (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1006">Night Fighter, an Abandoned Superhero</a>). Two characteristics stand out. One was the goggles. Similar eyewear appeared in the Black Owl from 1940 and 1941 (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2468">Simon and Kirby&#8217;s Black Owl</a>). The presence of these goggles in two superheroes with a night theme suggests they were meant to be an aid for seeing in the dark. Of course such night vision would not be that appropriate for the Fly nor is it a power that the Fly ever used. Perhaps the eyewear was nothing more then a visual reference to the insect&#8217;s compound eyes or perhaps Jack saw no reason to remove them when he based the Fly&#8217;s costume on that of the Night Fighter.</p>
<p>One of the other features that the Fly inherited from the Night Fighter was a pistol of some kind. All that remains of the art for Night Fighter are two unfinished covers and neither offers any clues as to what use the pistol was put to. My guess is that it was for shooting a wire for scaling buildings such as that used by the Sandman, another superhero that Simon and Kirby worked on during the war. While a wirepoon might be a useful device for the Night Fighter it would be rather superfluous for a superhero like the Fly who is able to walk up walls. Well in &#8220;Buzz Gun&#8221; Kirby shows how the Fly&#8217;s pistol is used. It makes a noise! Oh well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Adventures of the Fly" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/splashfly1s.jpg" alt="" width="550" height="385" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby<br />
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<p>Jack Kirby&#8217;s last chapter for the origin story opens with a spectacular double page splash. The title exclaims &#8220;for the first time in comics: the wide angel scream&#8221;. Of course this really was not the first use of a double page splash a subject that I covered in a still unfinished serial post (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/category/serial-posts/wide-angle-scream">The Wide Angle Scream</a>). The chances are that none of the Fly readers had seen any of Simon and Kirby&#8217;s earlier uses. While Simon and Kirby did not originate the double page splash, nobody else did it better. Further by 1959 the wide splash was no longer used by anyone. I can imagine the impression the centerfold splash made for potential buyers of the comic. How could they resist. I am sure I would not have. I would have been 9 at the time but sometime around that period I had read some of the DC superhero comics. I found them boring and had given up on comics for a while. Unfortunately I never saw any of the Simon and Kirby creations.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2583" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1Triangle.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="373" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Sign of the Triangle&#8221;, art by Joe Simon</p>
<p>The Jack Kirby Checklist includes this among the work that Kirby did for this issue but I am not convinced. To me it looks like Simon did the drawing. However this confusion is really understandable because the illustration appears to be a swipe from the cover of <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/559">Foxhole #3</a> (February 1955) which had be drawn by Kirby. It is not an exact copy, but I do not believe Simon ever did exact copies. The inking looks like Joe did that as well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2582" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1Search2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Search&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>I may not be confident about attributing the illustration for &#8220;Sign of the Triangle&#8221; to Simon but there seems little doubt that Joe did the two page Shield promotional piece called &#8220;The Search&#8221;. This one is full of swipes from art by Kirby. For instance the man being punched through a wall and then left hanging was from the origin story in Fighting American #1 (April 1954, <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1797">Captain America Returns</a>). Note that while Joe follows pretty closely the man stuck in the wall he has added the man&#8217;s face for the punching image which Jack had cut off by the panel edge.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2581" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1MagicEye.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="717" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Magic Eye&#8221;, pencils by George Tuska?</p>
<p>The final story is completely independent from the Fly origin and done by another artist, I believe it is George Tuska. I questionably attributed some work from Private Strong #2 to George as well; let us see if some of my more knowledgeable readers will agree with me on this one as well. This is another example where I do not see any obvious swipes of Kirby.</p>
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		<title>Double Life of Private Strong, the Last Issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;The Toy Master&#8221; page 5, art by unidentified artist
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Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;The Toy Master&#8221; page 5, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>While the first issue of Double Life of Private Strong was almost completely drawn by Jack Kirby, he played a much smaller part in the second. I am not sure who drew the first story, &#8220;The Toy Master&#8221;, but he obviously was working from some sort of directions. In &#8220;The Comic Book Makers, Joe Simon writes about using Carl Burgos to create layouts. In fact Joe&#8217;s collection still includes layouts for a Fly story (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/218">Carl Burgos does the Fly</a>). By supplying the artists with layouts, Joe was able to give the comic a distinct Kirby feel. Scattered through the art are swipes; most of them from the previous Simon and Kirby superhero, Fighting American. For instance the Shield in panel 4 of page 5 was based on a splash from Fighting American #1. Some experts have claimed that these are either stats or mechanical copies but I have disproved that by overlaying the art (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/956">The Fly, A Case Study of Swiping</a>). Apparently all that was done was a free hand copy was created for the layout and the artist would finish it. This would provide the desired Kirby-feel to the story without making the swipe too incongruous with the rest of the art. There are other examples were the copy deviated even more from the original. I believe, for instance, that the Shield in panel 3 was swiped by the one Kirby did for the splash of <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2564">&#8220;The Menace of the Micro-Men&#8221;</a> from Private Strong #1.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2577" title="Double Life of Private Strong #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS2UpsyDaisy.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #2" width="500" height="716" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;Upsy Daisy&#8221;, art by George Tuska?</p>
<p>I going out on a limb because I am not familiar enough with his work, but I believe &#8220;Upsy Daisy&#8221; might be the work of George Tuska. Joe Simon has written in &#8220;The Comic Book Maker&#8221; that Tuska worked on the Archie comics for him so it is not an unreasonable guess. Perhaps I missed them, but I do not spot any obvious swipes from Kirby in this story.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2576" title="Double Life of Private Strong #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS2IWishIWere.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #2" width="500" height="350" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;I Wish I Were the Shield&#8221;, art by George Tuska?<br />
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<p>The two tier panel layout is pretty much identical to the one used for the double page splashes found in Adventures of the Fly #1 and #2. However there is no mention of &#8220;the wide angle scream&#8221; nor are the curved black bands of the top and bottom of the splash (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1656">The Wide Angle Scream, What Was Old Is New Again</a>). Again my attribution of this story to George Tuska is by no means firm.</p>
<p>Here there are some examples of swiping from Kirby. For instance the Shield in the splash was based on the cover logo that first appeared on Fighting American #4 (October 1954). The presences of these swipes and the overall superiority of the story art over that for &#8220;Upsy Daisy&#8221; suggests that this story was done from layouts.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2574" title="Double Life of Private Strong #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS2UltraSonicSpies1.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #2" width="500" height="722" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;The Ultra-Sonic Spies&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The use of swipes was clearly an attempt to improve the look of the art not actually drawn by Kirby. But of course it was only partially successful since after all nothing beats the real thing. The single story by Kirby in this issue, &#8220;The Ultra-Sonic Spies&#8221;, just out shines all the rest of the comic. What a mixture of action and humor. Since the Shield&#8217;s alter ego, Lancelot Strong, was a private in the U.S. army, Jack was able to return to and improve upon the humor that was done years previously in Captain America. While Simon and Kirby had always preferred less powerful and more human heroes, Kirby makes exciting use the Shield&#8217;s greater power. I would say Jack was much more at ease with the Shield than he was with the Fly. What Kirby did in Private Strong prefigures more than any of his other work what was to blossom in the Marvel superhero line in a few years.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2573" title="Double Life of Private Strong #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS2FavoritePrivate.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #2" width="500" height="223" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;The General&#8217;s Favorite Private&#8221;, art by Joe Simon</p>
<p>There is a single page text piece about the Shield which tells how Lancelot Strong&#8217;s secret identity is discovered by General Smith. The story is nothing special but it contains an illustration by Joe Simon. Since the work that he did for the J. C. Penny (1947, <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/309">A History Lesson</a>) Joe drew very little comic book art. Probably the most significant work was <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1904">&#8220;Deadly Doolittle&#8221;</a> for Fighting American #6 and even that was a reworking of an earlier Sandman piece originally drawn by Kirby. After the Simon and Kirby studio broke up Joe did some more work on his own. Simon mostly did some covers but he also occasionally did an interior illustration such as the one accompanying the General Smith text story.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2572" title="Double Life of Private Strong #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS2BoySentinels2.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #2" width="500" height="716" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #2 (August 1959) &#8220;The Boy Sentinels&#8221; page 2, art by Joe Simon</p>
<p>For the most part one thing Joe Simon did not draw late in his career was full stories. Private Strong #2 included what is essentially an advertisement for the Fly, &#8220;The Boy Sentinels&#8221;. Should this two page piece be considered a story? What is interesting to me is that Joe makes little, if any, use of swipes from Kirby. Instead Simon drawing reflects back to the work he did for backup pieces for Stuntman and Boy Explorers, especially Vagabond Prince. The villain in the piece resembles that from &#8220;Trapped on Wax&#8221; (meant for the unpublished Boy Explorers #2), the close-up of the Fly hitting the villain seems taken from &#8220;The Madness of Doctor Altu (Black Cat #8, October 1947), and the young boys look like the one from &#8220;Death Trap De Luxe&#8221; (Black Cat #7, August 1947).</p>
<p>In &#8220;The Comic Book Makers&#8221; Joe writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Years later, I learned why John Goldwater had dropped his beloved Shield like a hot potato. DC Comic&#8217;s lawyers had sent him a cease-and-desist order which put forth the amusing claim that The Shield&#8217;s powers aped Superman&#8217;s too closely.</p></blockquote>
<p>On the face of it this seems rather remarkable. After all the only important powers that the Shield and Superman seems to be the ability to fly and run at super fast speeds. The Fly can also, well fly, but there seems to have been no problem with that similarity. While not denying the question about some shared powers between the Shield and Superman, I would suggest there were other features that made the Shield more vulnerable to legal action than the Fly. While the Shield&#8217;s uniform was modeled on that Simon and Kirby created for Captain America, it unfortunately shared a color scheme with Superman; the same overall blue with red shorts and boots. Also regrettably the Shield&#8217;s origin story shared features with Superman&#8217;s; orphaned as a baby and raised by an elderly farming couple. All these factors probably contributed to Goldwater&#8217;s cold feet when presented with a legal challenge. After all the Shield had not yet shown whether it was a large enough money maker to warrant fighting a legal battle.</p>
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		<title>Double Life of Private Strong, the First Issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it is still an open question exactly when the Simon and Kirby studio dissolved but it certainly had by the end of 1956 because Jack had begun doing freelance work for DC and Atlas. That did not mean the end of Simon and Kirby collaborations as Jack did most of the art for Race for the Moon issues #2 and #3 (September and November, 1958). Even though Joe and Jack were clearly not working in the same studio, I consider these issues of Race for the Moon to be the same sort of collaboration that had been done in the past. Certainly the results looked very much the same. However Race for the Moon was not very successful; actually none of the work Simon and Kirby did for Harvey Comics ever were.</p>
<p>In the early days of the silver age of comics DC had shown that once again there was money to be made in superheroes. John Goldwater, president and part owner of Archie Comics, thought it might be a good idea for his company to try superheroes again. Actually Archie Comics had started with superheroes only at that time the publisher called itself MLJ. Their flagship comic, Pep, featured the Shield, the first patriotic superhero. Simon and Kirby had even produced a cover for <a href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/12/14/comic-blogs-should-be-good-simon-and-kirby/">Shield Wizard #7 and (perhaps inadvertently) redesigned the Shield&#8217;s costume</a>.</p>
<p>Goldwater approached Simon to create two new titles and Joe came up with up with the Fly and the Shield. Although they shared the same name, Joe&#8217;s Shield was to be a very different character. After receiving Goldwater&#8217;s approval, Joe approached Kirby to provide some initial art work. Now this work can properly be called collaborations but the collaboration was nothing like what had occurred before and the results looked very different. While I am sure that Kirby had made significant creative contributions to the stories he worked on he was doing so with directions from Joe. In the past the inking of Jack&#8217;s pencils either involved Jack himself or was done by others in similar style. But for the new Archie titles Jack supplied only the pencils and all the inking was done in a more modern silver age style. Also Joe lined up other artists to work on the titles so it is clear Kirby was only meant to work on the initial issues.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2569" title="Double Life of Private Strong #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS1PrivateStrong.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #1" width="500" height="712" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #1 (June 1959) &#8220;The Double Life of Private Strong&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The new Shield appeared in a comic with the awkward title &#8220;The Double Life of Private Strong&#8221; with Jack Kirby providing all the story art. Besides great strength, the new Shield could fly, throw lightning bolts, run rapidly and see in the dark; perhaps there are some other powers that I have forgotten. In some respects the origin story is a variation on the Superman origin. The main difference is that the new Shield was not an alien but acquired his powers as a result of being the subject of his father&#8217;s experimentation. However he ended up an orphan found and adopted by a farming couple. Basing the Shield&#8217;s origin on that of Superman&#8217;s may have had negative consequences.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2568" title="PS1SpawnXWorld" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS1SpawnXWorld.jpg" alt="PS1SpawnXWorld" width="500" height="704" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #1 (June 1959) &#8220;Spawn of the &#8216;X&#8217; World&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The stories in issue #1 are actually chapters in one long origin story. The first story dealt with Lancelot&#8217;s youth in the next, &#8220;Spawn of the X&#8217; World&#8221; we see his discovery and first use of his powers. At the beginning of the story Lancelot is accompanied by a friend, Spud, but at the end of the story we find that while Lancelot was off saving the world Spud was in critical condition having been caught in a fire. Some comic experts have tried to equate this with the death of Uncle Ben in the Spider-Man origin story. However it just does not wash. Uncle Ben&#8217;s death was the result of Spider-Man&#8217;s unwillingness to intercede in a crime while Lancelot was very much fulfilling the role of a hero when he left Spud. Further it is not clear that Spud would in fact die as the policeman says that they will try to save him. And if that was not enough, Lancelot does not seem that remorseful (&#8221;if only the Shield had known&#8221;) and was more concerned about learning about his powers.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2567" title="Double Life of Private Strong #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS1VanishedWreckage.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #1" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #1 (June 1959) &#8220;Mystery of the Vanished Wreckage&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The next &#8220;chapter&#8221; begins with Lancelot and a friend. Is the companion Spud? It is not clear but the person had been told of Lancelot&#8217;s deeds except he just does not believe it. At the end of &#8220;Mystery of the Vanished Wreckage&#8221;, Lancelot has received a draft notice.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2566" title="Double Life of Private Strong #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS1MicroMen.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #1" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #1 (June 1959) &#8220;The Menace of the Micro-Men&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The final story of the issue takes place when Lancelot has just entered the army. It involves a villain who is able to shrink men, a theme that Kirby has used before (Yellow Claw #3, February 1957, &#8220;The Microscopic Army&#8221;).</p>
<p>The origin stories that Simon and Kirby produced had evolved as their career progressed. For Captain America the origin story seems little more the something to get past as quickly as possible. Greater attention was paid for the origin stories of the Newsboy Legion, Manhunter and the Boy Explorers but they still occupied a single 10 to 13 page story. For Boys&#8217; Ranch Kirby drew an impressive 17 page story. For Fighting American the origin was broken into two stories; the first detailing how the hero came to be Fighting American and the second how he acquired his sidekick, Speedboy. With Private Strong and the Fly the origin story would be spread out over several stories in the first issue. As far as I know this early use of continuity, limited though it was, cannot be found in any other comics before the Marvel age. Unfortunately neither Kirby nor Simon seem to realize what they had stumbled upon and once the origin story was over, so was any real continuity.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2565" title="Double Life of Private Strong #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PS1HideOut.jpg" alt="Double Life of Private Strong #1" width="500" height="722" /><br />
Double Life of Private Strong #1 (June 1959) &#8220;The Hide-Out&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The first issue also had a single page feature, &#8220;Tommy Troy Teaches Judo&#8221;. The first Fly comic had not been released yet so at the bottom of the page announces &#8220;see more of Tommy Troy in Adventures of the Fly&#8221;. I do not know who the artist was. Nor can I identify the artists who provided illustrations for the required text piece except to say it was not by either Simon or Kirby. &#8220;The Hide-Out&#8221; was a two page promo for the Fly also drawn by Kirby. Despite its short length (15 panels) it is really a nice piece. Kirby always seemed to give his work his best effort no matter the length.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll write about the second issue next week.</p>
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		<title>Cover for Alarming Tales #2, My Third Attribution Attempt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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Alarming Tales #2 (November 1957)
Trying to provide the proper credit for comic book art is always filled with uncertainties in certain cases. All one can do is use what evidence is available and make the best judgment possible. The willingness to try must be joined with acceptance of the errors that will sometimes be made. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/AlarmingTales2.jpg" alt="Alarming Tales #2" /><br />
Alarming Tales #2 (November 1957)</p>
<p>Trying to provide the proper credit for comic book art is always filled with uncertainties in certain cases. All one can do is use what evidence is available and make the best judgment possible. The willingness to try must be joined with acceptance of the errors that will sometimes be made. Case in point, the cover for Alarming Tales #2.</p>
<p><img src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/AlarmingTales4.jpg" alt="Alarming Tales #4" /><br />
Alarming Tales #4 (March 1958), art by Joe Simon</p>
<p>My original take on the cover for AT #2 was that Joe Simon was the artist. Joe can be a difficult artist to identify. While he signed much of his work at the start of his career a lot of his later work lacks a signature. An even greater difficulty lies in Joe&#8217;s skill in adopting different styles. Experts have attributed some Fox covers to Lou Fine having overlooked Joe&#8217;s small signature. Joe did so good a job at mimicking Jack Kirby that much of the admittedly limited amount of work Simon did while collaborating with Kirby continues to be attributed to Jack. I do not claim to be able to identify all Joe Simon&#8217;s work; there is some late romance cover work that I do not a good understanding of and I sometimes doubt that it will ever be possible to confidently determine which Dick Tracy covers Simon ghosted. <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1523">The Art of Joe Simon</a> provides an overview of Joe&#8217;s career although I have changed my opinion about a few of the attributions in that serial post*. Among the styles Joe used was one more personal in that it does not seem to be an attempt at mimicking another artist. One of the best examples of this style can be found on the cover for Alarming Tales #4. The man in the cover for Alarming Tales #2 shares that style and for that reason I first assigned AT #2 to Joe Simon.</p>
<p><img src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/AlarmingCover2.jpg" alt="Alarming Tales #2" /><br />
Alarming Tales #2, original art from the collection of Paul Handler</p>
<p>But there were problems with my original attribution of this cover to Joe Simon, the most important of which was that the spaceman look like he was done by Mort Meskin. Mort Meskin had not worked for Joe Simon since the breakup of the Simon and Kirby studio and there are no examples of Mort&#8217;s work in any Joe&#8217;s productions after that time. However when the original art for the cover surfaced <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/982">I reevaluated my position</a>. The original art clearly shows that the cover was made by joining two separate pieces of art. I therefore concluded that Joe had used an old piece of art by Mort Meskin combined with new art by his own hand. But a Simon and Meskin joint attributions was not completely satisfactory. What was the original source for the Meskin art? It was too large to be story art. The only comic that the art might have been meant for was Black Magic. Jack Kirby did all the covers for the first run of Black Magic so this left the possibility that the spaceman was originally for a splash page of a story meant for Black Magic left over from the sudden cancellation of that title.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bm05sleepdie3_4.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1834" title="Black Magic #5" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bm05sleepdie3_4.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
Black Magic #5 (June 1951) &#8220;Sleep, Perchance to Die&#8221; page 3 panel 4, art by Mort Meskin</p>
<p>That is how my opinion stood for almost two years. Recently, however, I was reviewing some Black Magic comics when I noticed a page from Mort Meskin&#8217;s &#8220;Sleep, Perchance to Die&#8221;. The story concerns a rivalry so intense that it carried over into prophetic dreams. The protagonist was a bookish student and one of his dream involved being chases by an overgrown version of his athletic rival (but no bites from a radioactive spider). There can be no doubt that the oversized and somewhat monstrous figure was the bases for the spaceman of the Alarming Tales #2 cover. The final, and almost certainly the correct, conclusion was that Joe Simon drew the entire AT #2 cover using the panel from Meskin&#8217;s Black Magic story from 1951 as source material. While the AT #2 figure retains enough of the original that Meskin&#8217;s touch can still be recognized, a comparison between the two shows how much Simon has transformed it. This is the first case of Simon swiping from Meskin that I have seen but I am sure there are other examples yet to be found. Joe still has great admiration for Mort Meskin&#8217;s talent. The Joe Simon collection includes a group of proofs of various Meskin splash pages. No other artist received a similar treatment, not even Jack Kirby.</p>
<p>footnotes:</p>
<p>* I no longer believe Joe Simon penciled &#8220;The Woman Who Discovered America 67 Years Before Columbus&#8221; (Black Cat Mystic #60, November 1957) or the cover for The Spirit #12 (Super Comics, 1963).</p>
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		<title>Joe Simon&#8217;s Political Comics</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Simon&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Comic Book Makers&#8221; (written with Jim Simon), includes a chapter &#8220;Marty, The Unknown Writer&#8221; that discusses Joe&#8217;s work on political comic books and how it came about. As usual it is interesting reading, however no examples of the comic books were provided. I thought they might provide the subject of a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Simon&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Comic Book Makers&#8221; (written with Jim Simon), includes a chapter &#8220;Marty, The Unknown Writer&#8221; that discusses Joe&#8217;s work on political comic books and how it came about. As usual it is interesting reading, however no examples of the comic books were provided. I thought they might provide the subject of a further post of Joe&#8217;s work outside the standard comic book field.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicsrockefeller1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1689" title="Joe Simon" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicsrockefeller1.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
&#8220;The Rockefeller Team&#8221;, art by Joe Simon, script by Martin A. Bursten</p>
<p>The above image is from the cover but like all examples that I provide here the covers were done on the same newsprint paper as the rest of the comic book. The individuals shown are, from left to right, Judge John P. Lomenzo, U. S. Senator Jacob K. Javits, New York Governor Nelson Alodrich Rockefeller, N. Y. Attorney General Louis J. Lefkowitz, and N. Y. Lieutenant Governor Malcolm Wilson. Actually those are the titles they had at the time, but some went on to hold other positions. For instance Nelson Rockefeller was selected to be U. S. Vice President with Gerald Ford after Richard Nixon resigned from the presidency. The comic book is undated but had to been done between 1959 when Nelson first became Governor and 1974 when he left that position to become Vice President.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicsrockefeller2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1688" title="Joe Simon" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicsrockefeller2.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
&#8220;The Rockefeller Team&#8221;, art by Joe Simon, script by Martin A. Bursten</p>
<p>The art for all these comics was done in a realistic style which is not unexpected given the political purpose they were created for. They are all short in length having only 8 pages (including the cover). Generally the layout have the standard comic book panels, but occasionally, as shown above, a more interesting panel arrangement is presented.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicskeating.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1687" title="Joe Simon" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicskeating.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
&#8220;Our Friend Ken&#8221;, art by Joe Simon, script by Martin A. Bursten</p>
<p>The Ken of this comic is Kenneth B. Keating, U. S. Senator from 1959 until 1965 when he lost the seat to Robert F. Kennedy. This provides a narrower period for when the comic was published and Keating’s absence from &#8220;The Rockefeller Team&#8221; suggests that comic was produced after 1965.</p>
<p>Joe Simon is credited with the art to both of these comics while the script is by Martin A. Bursten. This is the same Bursten whose name appeared in &#8220;Mercury in the 20th Century&#8221; (Red Raven #1, August 1940) that Jack Kirby drew which previously led to the mistaken idea that the name was an alias of Jack&#8217;s. In &#8220;The Comic Book Makers&#8221; Joe explains that he did this political comic book work on a free lance basis for Bursten&#8217;s advertising and public relation firm. The name of that firm was Burstein and Newman and was located in Marty&#8217;s home in Great Neck. Both &#8220;The Rockefeller Team&#8221; and &#8220;Our Friend Ken&#8221; were produced by Country Art Studios in Woodbury, which is where Joe lived at the time.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicslefkowitz.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1686" title="Joe Simon" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/politicslefkowitz.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />
&#8220;Solo en America, La Historia de Louis J. Lefkowitz&#8221; art by Joe Simon, script by Martin A. Bursten, translation by Dr. Carmen Marrero</p>
<p>Lefkowitz appears a little older then in &#8220;The Rockefeller Team&#8221; so I believe this was done even later. There are no art credits in this comic but the style is so similar to the others that I have no doubt that Joe Simon was responsible for it as well. Unfortunately I cannot read Spanish so I am unsure if this was just a translated version or if the comic was made specifically for a Hispanic reader.</p>
<p>These three are the only political comics by Simon that I have seen. But given their use in political campaigns their survival is even more unlikely then standard comics. These copies were all given to me by Joe himself and I have never seen examples anywhere else. But although Joe liked to keep copies of his work for his own collection that does not mean that these were the only ones he did. Perhaps others will eventually be found.</p>
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