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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 37, Some Surprises</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(January &#8211; June 1959: Young Romance #98 &#8211; #100, All For Love #12 &#8211; #14, Personal Love #9 &#8211; #11) Young Romance #98 (February 1959) &#8220;Secret In My Heart&#8221;, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby Kirby provides four stories for &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(January &#8211; June 1959: Young Romance #98 &#8211; #100, All For Love #12 &#8211; #14, Personal Love #9 &#8211; #11)</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3059" title="Young Romance #98" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR098Secret.jpg" alt="Young Romance #98" width="500" height="678" /><br />
Young Romance #98 (February 1959) &#8220;Secret In My Heart&#8221;, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Kirby provides four stories for two issues of Young Romance (YR #98 and #99). I believe Jack inked three of the stories himself as well as the splash page for the fourth story. It is hard to be sure because some of the old inking techniques such as arched shadows (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>) do not show up often. Further the other inker, who I believe was Marvin Stein, was doing a pretty good job matching Kirby&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Note the tilted image in the first story panel. This is a bit unusual for Kirby but then again Jack was always trying something different.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3058" title="Young Romance #99" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR099ManWanted2.jpg" alt="Young Romance #99" width="500" height="723" /><br />
Young Romance #99 (April 1959) &#8220;Man Wanted&#8221; page 2, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Above is an example of the great graphical story telling Kirby was doing during this period. Jack&#8217;s drawing style has taken on a more abstract quality. Note the eyelids of the woman in the second panel. They really are not natural or realistic but are very expressive nonetheless.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3056" title="Young Romance #98" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR098MySister3.jpg" alt="Young Romance #98" width="500" height="705" /><br />
Young Romance #98 (February 1959) &#8220;A Husband for My Sister&#8221; page 3, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>While I believe the splash page for &#8220;A Husband for My Sister&#8221; was inked by Kirby himself, the rest of the story does not look like his inking. Perhaps the most obvious difference is the shadow inking found in the first panel of page three. The inker obviously had a poor understanding of the shape of the head. Particularly grievous is the shadow around the eye of the woman. Nor would one expect the man&#8217;s lips to catch the light as it does here. I have never seen Kirby do this sort of thing but I have seen Marvin Stein do similar unnatural handling of shadows (&#8220;Tragic Circle, JTTG #75, <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2873">Criminal Artists, Marvin Stein</a>).</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3055" title="Young Romance #99" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR099FairGame.jpg" alt="Young Romance #99" width="500" height="688" /><br />
Young Romance #99 (April 1959) &#8220;Fair Game&#8221;, art by Paul Reinman</p>
<p>Paul Reinman was used often during this period, providing five stories for Young Romance. His abundant appearance in Young Romance and absence from All For Love and Personal Love is another indication that they titles were produced by different editors.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3054" title="Young Romance #98" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR098MadeInHeaven.jpg" alt="Young Romance #98" width="500" height="689" /><br />
Young Romance #98 (February 1959) &#8220;Made in Heaven&#8221;, art by John Prentice?</p>
<p>I am not sure what to make of &#8220;Made in Heaven&#8221;. The art superficially resembles that by John Prentice but is no where nearly nicely drawn as was typical for John. At this time Prentice was primarily working on the syndication strip Rip Kirby but he may also have been doing some work for DC. Was this Prentice quickly dashing something off or was it some other artists copying John&#8217;s style? Like I said, I am not sure but I will deffer my opinion until the next chapter when I will have further examples to examine.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3053" title="All For Love #14" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AFL14LostParadise4.jpg" alt="All For Love #14" width="500" height="736" /><br />
All For Love #14 (June 1959) &#8220;Lost Paradise&#8221; page 4, pencils and inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Marvin Stein only did a single story during this period. Stein had begun working for Cellomatic in 1958 so presumably his comic book work was done during his spare time. Perhaps this explains his the increasingly looser style that Marvin was using. Still &#8220;Lost Paradise&#8221; is a graphically well told story.</p>
<p>In the previous chapter I mentioned an unidentified artist who, like Stein, used a rather blunt brush. I wrote that this unknown artist liked to provide very thick outlines in parts. Well it looks like Stein has adopted that style as well. I still believe they are different artists because of the very different manners they drew woman.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3052" title="Personal Love #10" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PL10TiesThatBind.jpg" alt="Personal Love #10" width="500" height="697" /><br />
Personal Love #10 (March 1959) &#8220;The Ties That Bind&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>Ted Galindo&#8217;s attractive work continues to show up frequently in All For Love and Personal Love. Would you call this a splashless story or one with just a reduced size splash? An unusual panel layout for Galindo or any other artist doing work for the Prize romance titles.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3050" title="Personal Love #11" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PL11TrueDevotion.jpg" alt="Personal Love #11" width="500" height="698" /><br />
Personal Love #11 (May 1959) &#8220;True Devotion&#8221;, art by Joe Orlando</p>
<p>I would have saved myself much effort had I noticed before the signature on the splash for &#8220;True Devotion&#8221;. There as clear as day is Joe Orlando&#8217;s full signature. Even the letters J and O are executed in the same manner that he used on cover art for All For Love, Personal Love and Justice Traps the Guilty. No question about it all that cover art was done by Joe. Orlando was no longer providing covers but he was now drawing full stories. Besides &#8220;True Devotion&#8221; there are two other unsigned stories from this period. Considering the quality of the covers Orlando did, it is not surprising how excellent the story art was.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3049" title="All For Love #14" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AFL14LoveWalkedIn.jpg" alt="All For Love #14" width="500" height="745" /><br />
All For Love #14 (June 1959) &#8220;Love Walked In&#8221;, art by Dick Briefer</p>
<p>Unlike Orlando&#8217;s &#8220;True Devotion&#8221;, I had previously seen the signature on &#8220;Love Walked In&#8221; but I had misread it. So I was rather surprised when I reviewed it for this post to find the correct reading was clearly Dick Briefer. What a pleasant but unexpected find. A fortunate one as well, I doubt I would have identified Briefer as the artist without the signature. I have never seen romance art by Dick before and he does it surprisingly well. Once you know it was done by Briefer you can pick out some of his traits, particularly Briefer&#8217;s love of asymmetry. But the style on a whole is a lot more conservative and realistic than typical Briefer art especially compared to his Frankenstein.</p>
<p><img title="Personal Love #11" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PL11Something.jpg" alt="Personal Love #11" width="500" height="739" /><br />
Personal Love #11 (May 1959) &#8220;Something To Remember You By&#8221; , art by Dick Briefer</p>
<p>Briefer also did two unsigned pieces during the period so I could not resist including another example. I really love what he does with these stories.</p>
<p>I thought Dick had pretty much given up work as a comic book artist after Prize&#8217;s Frankenstein was cancelled in 1954 (a casualty of the Comic Code). The <a href="http://www.comics.org/">GCD</a> only lists reprints for him after that date. &#8220;<a href="http://www.bailsprojects.com">Who&#8217;s Who</a>&#8221; has him as a non-comics freelancer from 1956 to 1960, followed by advertisement art (1960 &#8211; 1972) and fine arts (1962 &#8211; 1972). But now we know he did not completely abandon comics.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)</a><br />
Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3102">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 36, More Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(July &#8211; December 1958: Young Romance #95 &#8211; #97, All For Love #9 &#8211; #11, Personal Love #6 &#8211; #8) Young Romance #97 (December 1958), pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Jack and Rosalind? Kirby Kirby drew two of the &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(July &#8211; December 1958: Young Romance #95 &#8211; #97, All For Love #9 &#8211; #11, Personal Love #6 &#8211; #8)</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Young Romance #97" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/YR097.jpg" alt="" width="452" height="669" /><br />
Young Romance #97 (December 1958), pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Jack and Rosalind? Kirby</p>
<p>Kirby drew two of the Young Romance covers during this period (he also did Young Romance #95). Both appeared to be inked by Jack as well. But note the unusual hand belonging to the contestant wearing the blue dress. When Kirby drew covers those hands found in the periphery often were just crudely sketched. Inkers were generally artists as well and they would ink Jack&#8217;s quickly drawn hands in a way to provide them with some semblance of normality. But this example from the YR #97 cover could only be described as quite amateurish. I find it hard to believe that any professional artist would have inked such a hand. That is why I suspect that Jack&#8217;s wife Rosalind provided the outline inking. It has been reported that Rosalind did help Jack with the inking at this time, most notably for DC&#8217;s Green Arrow. Some have said that her help amounted to nothing more than filling in the black areas but other believe she did some of the outline inking as well using a pen. YR #97 convinces me that the latter proposition is correct. Rosalind Kirby may have outline inked some of Jack&#8217;s other romance art from this period but I have not noticed other such obvious examples.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3034" title="Young Romance #95" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR095Listening2.jpg" alt="Young Romance #95" width="500" height="729" /><br />
Young Romance #95 (August 1958) &#8220;Listening To Love&#8221; page 2, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The above page is a nice example of Kirby&#8217;s Austere inking. This style provided art that normally had a lighter overall look to it compared to earlier Simon and Kirby work. Yes panels 3 and 6 are filled with black but the figures are still light. Some characteristics of earlier inking remain. For example the arched shadow in panel 5 was often found in previous work. While I am a great admirer of the earlier style (which I call the Studio style), I find the Austere style rather beautiful as well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3033" title="Young Romance #97" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR097HeartsFlowers.jpg" alt="Young Romance #97" width="500" height="725" /><br />
Young Romance #97 (December 1958) &#8220;Hearts and Flowers&#8221;, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>I personally find Kirby&#8217;s romance splashes from 1957 as among Kirby&#8217;s poorer pieces. But the splashes he did in 1958 are just great. The fact that Jack inked so many of them himself in 1958 provides part of the explanation about why they are so much better. However even pieces inked by others (such as the one from &#8220;Jealousy&#8221; from the last chapter) seem more interesting. It seems Kirby got his creative juices flowing again and began provided interesting compositions. The man in the foreground of &#8220;Hearts and Flowers&#8221; seems to block the reader&#8217;s viewpoint as well as the ladies. Her straight back pose seems to shout her feelings of being trapped. The man in the background occupies only a small part of the image but his presence at the focal point makes certain that the reader sees his disapproval of the other man&#8217;s actions. Great art, great story telling, great Kirby!</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3032" title="Young Romance #97" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR097UnivitedGuest4.jpg" alt="Young Romance #97" width="500" height="732" /><br />
Young Romance #97 (December 1958) &#8220;Uninvited Guest&#8221; page 4, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>I love the final romance art that Jack Kirby did for Young Romance. Most fans focus on Kirby superhero features but it is his romance work that Jack truly showed his genius. This page is a great example. While there is no action this is by no means a collection of panels of standing figures. Expression, body language and view points are all manipulated to advance the story and keep the reader interested.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3031" title="Young Romance #95" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR095HoldBack.jpg" alt="Young Romance #95" width="500" height="737" /><br />
Young Romance #95 (August 1958) &#8220;Hold Back The Tears&#8221;, pencils and inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Marvin Stein is one artist that I have reevaluated over the years. Initially I was not impressed. My earlier low opinion was largely due to his early romance art which even now I do not think that all that great. It was his crime work in particular that changed my opinion (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2873">Criminal Artist, Marvin Stein</a>). While in some ways I find his style not as conducive for the romance genre, Stein&#8217;s romance art is still very interesting.</p>
<p>Note the long eyebrows found on the woman in the last panel. Such exaggerated eyebrows sometimes appear in the inking of Kirby&#8217;s pencils from 1956 and 1957. That is one of the reasons I sometimes believe Stein was the inker for much of Kirby&#8217;s work during that period.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3030" title="Young Romance #95" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR095ComeBack.jpg" alt="Young Romance #95" width="500" height="727" /><br />
Young Romance #95 (August 1958) &#8220;Lover, Come Back&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>Some of the yet unidentified artist doing romance for Prize during this period were frankly not as good compared to those used previously. There are, however, exceptions. I particularly like the work for &#8220;Lover, Come Back&#8221;. The art appears to be based on photographic reference material and not all panels are quite as successful as those from the first page. But all the art is nicely integrated so that the swiped parts are not so noticeable. There is another story from the same issue (&#8220;A Young Man&#8217;s Fancy&#8221;) that I believe was done by the same artist. While that story also appeared to be in parts based on photographs it was not so successfully integrated. In fact the results was pretty much a disaster.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3029" title="Young Romance #97" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/YR097GreyFlannel.jpg" alt="Young Romance #97" width="500" height="736" /><br />
Young Romance #97 (December 1958) &#8220;The Lamb In The Grey Flannel Suit&#8221;, art by<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> unidentified artist </span>Paul Reinman</p>
<p>Another interesting but unidentified artist appearing in Young Romance. <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">I have not noticed any other work by the same artist.</span> Reinman did two other stories during this period and would play an important roll in futher issues of Young Romance.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3028" title="All For Love #9" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AFL09BrokenHeart.jpg" alt="All For Love #9" width="500" height="739" /><br />
All For Love #9 (August 1958) &#8220;Portrait of a Broken Heart&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>This artist appears fairly frequently in All For Love and Personal Love. Like Marvin Stein, he uses a rather blunt brush for his inking. However his woman are very different from Stein&#8217;s so there should be no problems confusing the two. Unlike Stein, this artist likes to use very thick outlines in places such as in the above splash on the woman&#8217;s hair and the man&#8217;s back.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3027" title="All For Love #10" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/AFL10LittleLiar.jpg" alt="All For Love #10" width="500" height="734" /><br />
All For Love #10 (October 1958) &#8220;Little Liar&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>Ted Galindo continues to frequently appear in All For Love and Personal Love but not in Young Romance (the title still produced by Simon and Kirby). Ted provides 6 stories with most issues having one of his stories. It does not work out perfectly since Galindo appeared twice in All For Love #10 (October 1958) but not at all in Personal Love #7 (September 1958). The above page shows Ted using a tall narrow splash. While Galindo did not use such a splash panels often, tall and narrow panels do appear fairly frequently in the story pages.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</a><br />
Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3102">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Black Magic #34 (September 1957) &#8220;The Hidden Doors&#8221;, pencils by Joe Orlando In recent entries of the serial post of The Art of Romance (Chapter 34 and Chapter 35) I discussed the cover art by an artist who used the &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3024" title="Black Magic #34" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/BM34HiddenDoors.jpg" alt="Black Magic #34" width="500" height="730" /><br />
Black Magic #34 (September 1957) &#8220;The Hidden Doors&#8221;, pencils by Joe Orlando</p>
<p>In recent entries of the serial post of The Art of Romance (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34</a> and <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35</a>) I discussed the cover art by an artist who used the initials JO. Although I have not yet written about him in my other serial post, Criminal Artists, the same artist also did covers for Justice Traps the Guilty. I had tentatively credited Joe Orlando as the artist in question. The main reason for uncertainty of this conclusion was that I had not had a chance to do a comparison of work from this period that can be confidently attributed to Orlando. One great thing about databases is that the remember details that the human mind sometimes forgets. I was pleased to find that my database indicated that I did in fact have something with a full signature by Joe Orlando, &#8220;The Hidden Doors&#8221; from Black Magic #34 (September 1957). This was the first issue of the re-launched Black Magic (the final issue of the earlier run was cover dated November 1954) . The new series was a very different comic from the earlier, Simon and Kirby, produced one. I am sure I will someday do a serial post on the second Black Magic run.</p>
<p>But let me get back to the actual subject of this post. While &#8220;The Hidden Doors&#8221; was a different genre, there are enough similarities to the romance and crime covers that I believe all were done by the same artist. Further the date for the Black Magic piece is perfectly aligned with the cover art. Therefore I am going to dispense with the question mark and just go with the Joe Orlando attribution.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)</a><br />
Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3102">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 35, Settling In</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(January &#8211; June 1958: Young Romance #92 &#8211; #94, All For Love #6 &#8211; #8, Personal Love #3 &#8211; #5) I was mistaken when in my last chapter I wrote that the postal statement for All For Love listed Joe &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(January &#8211; June 1958: Young Romance #92 &#8211; #94, All For Love #6 &#8211; #8, Personal Love #3 &#8211; #5)</p>
<p>I was mistaken when in my last chapter I wrote that the postal statement for All For Love listed Joe Genalo as the editor. That was true for all such statements except the first which listed Joe Simon and Jack Kirby as the editors. Where Simon and Kirby really the editors or was this just an error caused by cutting and pasting from a statement in Young Romance to the one for All For Love? I believe it was just an error because in this chapter as in the last one, different artists appeared in the different publications. Jack Kirby and Bill Benulis only appeared in Young Romance while Ted Galindo only appeared in All For Love and Personal Love. Marvin Stein appeared to be the only artist appearing in both Young Romance and All For Love, although oddly not in Personal Love.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3015" title="Young Romance #92" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR092cover.jpg" alt="Young Romance #92" width="443" height="652" /><br />
Young Romance #92 (February 1958), pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The cover for Young Romance #92 (February 1958) was the first one that Kirby did since his run of all-Kirby Prize romance issues of 1956. The preceding six covers done by other artists is a clear indication of the very different nature of Young Romance from 1957 on. Previously Kirby was the artist for all drawn covers except during the period when he and Joe were busy with Mainline Comics (there own publishing venture). This cover was inked by Kirby as well in the manner I call the Austere style (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/category/serial-posts/kirby-austere-inking">Jack Kirby&#8217;s Austere Inking</a>). Older techniques like picket fence crosshatching (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>) are absent although drop strings continue to be used but in an overlapping manner. Inking is sparser giving the art a lighter look. When a black region is called for it is executed by flooding the area with ink. The Austere style appears to have been adopted as a means to speed the inking process but not by sacrificing the aesthetics of the final result.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3014" title="Young Romance #92" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR092RunningMatesb.jpg" alt="Young Romance #92" width="500" height="747" /><br />
Young Romance #92 (February 1958) &#8220;Running Mates&#8221;, pencils and inks by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>&#8220;Running Mates&#8221; marks the beginning of Kirby inking his stories as well. An inker working on his own pencils always has an advantage, but when the artists is as talented inker as Jack was the difference can be astonishing. Jack&#8217;s drawing style has changed as well compared to his earlier work. His lines take on a more abstract quality. Look at the woman in the splash; particularly here nose and eyelids. This is far from realism but provides the figure with an expressive quality that realistic art generally fails to achieve.</p>
<p><img title="Young Romance #93" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR93Jealousyb.jpg" alt="Young Romance #93" width="500" height="742" /><br />
Young Romance #93 (April 1958) &#8220;Jealousy&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Kirby would not inked all his pencils during the period covered by this chapter, or even most. There are a number of Kirby stories that seemed to be inked by the same artist but I am generally not willing to commit myself to say who that artist was. However I have little doubt when it comes to the inker of &#8220;Jealousy&#8221;. Marvin Stein inks this piece in exactly the same manner that he would ink his own. When looking at the details it is easy to forget about Kirby&#8217;s involvement because Stein&#8217;s touch so permeates the piece. Only when one steps back to look at the forest instead of the trees does Jack&#8217;s hand become obvious. It is in my opinion a beautiful combination. This is one of my favorite Kirby pieces inked by someone other than Jack himself.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3012" title="Young Romance #92" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR092LovableDud.jpg" alt="Young Romance #92" width="500" height="700" /><br />
Young Romance #92 (February 1958) &#8220;Lovable Dud&#8221;, pencils by <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Bill Benulis</span> unidentified artist, inks by Vince Colletta</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">None of the stories from this period that I attribute to Bill Benulis are signed but the style does look like his. Benulis did some signed work for Simon and Kirby published in January 1954 (Young Brides #11 and Young Love #53) but I also credit to him an unsigned work from October 1955 (Young Love #67). Benulis is one of the younger artists who did romance in a more modern style and gave his characters more modern clothing and hair styles. Bill had a penchant for patterned clothing as for examples seen worn by the woman in the splash page above.</span></p>
<p>8/8/10 &#8211; Based on observations made by some commentors I went back and compared this and three other stories with &#8220;Live Alone And Love It&#8221; from Young Romance #91 (December 1957) a piece signed by Vince Colletta. All appeared to be inked by the same artist, Vince Colletta. I also compared these four stories with work from 1954 and 1955 that can confidently be credited to Bill Benulis. I no longer feel they all were done by the same penciller. I still feel that &#8220;Loveable Dud&#8221; and the other three stories were pencilled by a different artist than the Colletta signed piece. Therefore I have removed the Benulis attribution and left the penciller as unknown while crediting the inking for all to Vince Colletta.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3011" title="All For Love #6" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL06.jpg" alt="All For Love #6" width="446" height="652" /><br />
All For Love #6 (February 1958), pencils by Joe Orlando?</p>
<p>The cover for All For Love #6 is unsigned but appears to be by the same artist who initials J. O. appear on other All For Love, Personal Love and Justice Traps the Guilty covers. There have been some comments (both supportive and not) to the last chapter about my tentative suggestion that these covers may have been done by Joe Orlando. Frankly I have not real evidence to back up my suggestion. The artist is quite talented and he almost certainly has done work in comic books before. There really are not a lot of candidates from this period with these particular initials. None of the candidates seems more appropriate than Joe Orlando and so I am now questionably attributing this material to him. My practice in this blog is to use provide credit based on my own observations but this in no way should be interpreted as a disagreement with those who are more knowledgeable about certain artists than I am. Once I have had a chance to familiarize myself with the work Orlando did for other publishers, I am sure either the question mark will be removed or the attribution dropped.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3010" title="All For Love #6" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL6LoveTrust6.jpg" alt="All For Love #6" width="500" height="728" /><br />
All For Love #6 (February 1958) &#8220;To Love is to Trust&#8221; page 6, pencils by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>Ted Galindo was perhaps the most used artist for All For Love and Personal Love during this period. He certainly is one of my favorites. The above page is a good example of why I like him. The floating hearts are, in my opinion, a little hokey (but very much in fashion for the period) but otherwise this is a well designed and executed sequence.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3009" title="All For Love #7" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL7LoveGranted5.jpg" alt="All For Love #7" width="500" height="746" /><br />
All For Love #7 (April 1958) &#8220;Love For Granted&#8221; page 5], pencils by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>As in the last chapter, Marvin Stein appears in Young Romance (produced by Simon and Kirby) and All For Love. In some ways this is the better romance work compared to what Stein had been doing earlier in his career. In general I feel that Marvin&#8217;s style was more appropriate for the crime and western features he was doing for Prize. But now his woman are more lively and attractive. But I do feel Stein&#8217;s art now looks a bit rushed.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)</a><br />
Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3068http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3068">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 34, A New Prize Title</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(May &#8211; December 1957: Young Romance #88 &#8211; #91, All For Love #2 &#8211; #5, Personal Love #1 &#8211; #2) This serial post has now entered the period after the crash and near collapse of the comic book industry. Prize &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(May &#8211; December 1957: Young Romance #88 &#8211; #91, All For Love #2 &#8211; #5, Personal Love #1 &#8211; #2)</p>
<p>This serial post has now entered the period after the crash and near collapse of the comic book industry. Prize Comics was never a big publisher but these must have been particularly difficult times. At the start of this period Prize was only publishing three bi-monthly titles Justice Traps the Guilty, Young Romance and the new released All For Love. In September they would also release another new romance title, Personal Love. Like All For Love, Personal Love was not produced by Simon and Kirby. The annual postal statements list Joe Genalo as the editor and the contents seem somewhat different from that found in Young Romance. The artists used also seemed to be different as well, at least during this period. Jack Kirby appeared in three of the four issues of Young Romance covered by this post but did no work for All For Love or Personal Love. Lou Cameron played an important part in Young Romance #89 and #90 but he does not appear in the other Prize romance titles. On the other hand Ted Galindo appears frequently in All For Love and Personal Love but he does not show up in these issue of Young Romance.</p>
<p>Since at this time Kirby was freelancing for DC and Atlas, it is clear that he and Joe were no longer running their old studio. So the question becomes how Young Romance was actually produced. While previously there can be found examples of Jack in his roll as an art editor stepping in to fix up some parts of stories supplied by other artists or provide a splash page, I have seen no examples of that practice in the period from 1957 to 1960. On the other hand the annual postal statements still listed both Simon and Kirby as editors up to 1960. My suspicion is that Jack really was not involved in the editorial work for Young Romance and it was Joe who was really producing the title. Not that I believe this effort took much of Joe&#8217;s time; it was only a single bi-monthly title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2998" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR091WaitingGame.jpg" alt="Young Romance #91" width="500" height="741" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;The Waiting Game&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Jack Kirby provided art for three of the four issues of Young Romance during this period. However all were rather short pieces (1, 4 and 5 pages) and only one of them was the lead feature (a position often reserved for Jack in the past). All were nicely done but hardly very remarkable (for Kirby). Jack did not inked any of the pieces but one of them &#8220;The Waiting Game&#8221; looks very much like it was inked by Marvin Stein. Not the blunt but still subtle handling of the face of the man in the background of the splash. Of particular significance is the handling of the lady in the first story panel. She share a rather distorted perspective that I find hard to describe but is so often seen in Stein&#8217;s own work when a head is viewed from above and to the side. I am not as confident that Stein inked the other two Kirby stories but he could have.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2997" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR091LiveAlone.jpg" alt="Young Romance #91" width="500" height="734" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;Live Alone and Love It&#8221;, art by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>Marvin Stein not only inked a work for Jack Kirby but he penciled and inked his own story for Young Romance. I have remarked before how I find Stein&#8217;s style more appropriate for the crime genre than it was for romance. His &#8220;Live Alone and Love It&#8221; seems done in a particularly blunt manner even for Stein. Note the simplified eyebrows of the lady on this page, very reminiscent of the inking found in some of the Kirby pieces, another reason to possibly attribute to Marvin some of the more recent inking of Kirby&#8217;s art. Stein was an exception in that he appeared not only in Young Romance but also All For Love and Personal Love as well. However prior to this he also was one of the very few artists that worked on both Simon and Kirby productions along with the titles not produced by that pair.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2996" title="Young Romance #89" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR089PalJoannie.jpg" alt="Young Romance #89" width="500" height="736" /><br />
Young Romance #89 (August 1957) &#8220;Pal Joannie&#8221;, art by Lou Cameron</p>
<p>Lou Cameron, an artist new for Young Romance, played an important part in issues #89 and #90 supplying 5 stories. His work was really excellent; great graphic story telling and beautifully drawn women. Like some of the other younger artists new to the title, Lou drew in what I would describe as a more modern style. I am not that familiar with Cameron&#8217;s art but he also work for Atlas, DC and St. John Publishing. I am not sure what to attribute his sudden abundant appearance and just as quick disappearance in Young Romance but he is one of the artists that I wish had made a longer contribution to the title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Young Romance #91" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/YR091Colletta001.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="739" /><br />
Young Romance #91 (December 1957) &#8220;That Certain Something&#8221;, art by Vince Colletta</p>
<p>Young Romance #91 included the only appearance of Vince Colletta in a Simon and Kirby production. Colletta did a lot of work for Atlas, much of it romance art. However he is most famous as the inker that Kirby fans love to hate. Mostly this is due to his habit of erasing some of Kirby&#8217;s pencils to speed up the inking. Oddly Colletta has a small but very vocal group of supporters who I refer to as Colletta apologists. According to the Colletta apologists, Vince was the greatest romance artist who worked in a realistic style. While I admire Colletta&#8217;s romance art, neither of these assertions are true. I have never heard anyone other than a Colletta apologists claim Vince as their favorite romance artist and as far as I can tell Colletta apologists otherwise have no interest in romance art. And while his woman are beautiful they are not truly realistic. This is fortunate because I do not believe true realism would be appropriate for comic books. For my part, while I find Colletta&#8217;s women beautiful, I also find them to lack any individuality. The only distinction found between individual examples are the hair styles and clothes. Still he is another of those artists that I wish provided more work for Young Romance.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2995" title="Young Romance #89" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR089RockABye.jpg" alt="Young Romance #89" width="500" height="744" /><br />
Young Romance #89 (August 1957) &#8220;Rock-A-Bye To Love&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>In these last few chapters of the Art of Romance, I do not plan to discuss all the artists that appear in the Prize titles. Frankly most of them are not that great and I am so far unable to identify them. That is not to say that they are totally uninteresting. This is a period of transition for Young Romance as the title tries to maintain its appeal with a more modern audience. Hence the inclusion of rock-and-roll in some of the stories. However there is a tendency for rock music to be judged somewhat negatively.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2994" title="All For Love #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL02MyDestiny.jpg" alt="All For Love #2" width="500" height="736" /><br />
All For Love #2 (June 1957) &#8220;My Destiny&#8221;, art by Mort Meskin</p>
<p>Mort Meskin provides two stories for All For Love #2 (June 1957). Both works appear to have been inked by Mort as well. As far as the art is concerned the work is nicely done but does not differ much, if at all, from the romance work that Mort did up until the end of 1955. It is not the art that is a cause for a surprise but his appearance in a Prize comic. As I wrote, his romance work was about a year and a half prior to this but his art appeared in the Prize crime titles for a few months further (March 1956). His last work for Prize Comics Western was for the July 1956 issue. Then suddenly these two stories in All For Love and then Meskin disappears from further Prize comics. I suspect that Prize offered much lower page rates than what DC did which is where Meskin was doing most of his work at this time. But it is suggestive that it was in All For Love that Meskin appeared and not Young Romance which was still being produced by Simon and Kirby. In any case I believe this was the last romance comic book art that Mort Meskin would ever create.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2993" title="All For Love #3" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL03VoiceOfLove.jpg" alt="All For Love #3" width="500" height="699" /><br />
All For Love #3 (August 1957) &#8220;The Voice of Love&#8221;, art by Marvin Stein</p>
<p>As mentioned above, Marvin Stein was one of the few artists appearing in Young Romance as well as All For Love or Personal Love. If anything, the art for &#8220;The Voice of Love&#8221; shown above is more carefully drawn than that from Young Romance #91.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2992" title="All For Love #3" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL03TheMatch.jpg" alt="All For Love #3" width="500" height="742" /><br />
All For Love #3 (August 1957) &#8220;The Match&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>Ted Galindo provided work for all the Prize titles at this time except for Young Romance. Ted had previously drawn a story for Foxhole which, to be frank, was really not that well done. His romance work was much better, most likely because he now was a more experienced comic book artist. I feel the best work he was doing at this time appeared in Justice Traps the Guilty which will be the subject of a future chapter to <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/category/serial-posts/criminal-artists">Criminal Artists</a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2991" title="All For Love #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL02.jpg" alt="All For Love #2" width="431" height="652" /><br />
All For Love #2 (June 1957), art by J.O.</p>
<p>Some of the Prize titles during this period had cover art signed only as JO. No interior stories bear that signature and as far as I can seen none of the unsigned pieces were by this artist. The covers are very well done and indicate that this is a talented artist. I have only begun investigating whom this might be and have not reached any but the most tenuous conclusions. Although I have as yet no good evidence to back it up, I wonder if this might be by Joe Orlando.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2990" title="Personal Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PL01AboutLove.jpg" alt="Personal Love #1" width="500" height="688" /><br />
Personal Love #1 (September 1957), &#8220;The Truth About Love&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>I could not resist including another romance story from this period with a rock-n-roll reference. In the background of the splash can be seen a singer playing an acoustic guitar. That, plus the lyrics he sings, clearly were meant to be a reference to Elvis Presley who was very popular at that time (and since).</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)</a><br />
Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3102">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Art of Romance, Chapter 33, End of an Era</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[(November 1956 &#8211; April 1957: Young Romance #85 &#8211; #87, Young Love #73, Young Brides #30, All For Love #1) Number of Romance titles 1947 &#8211; 1958 (the period covered in this chapter is shaded in blue) We now come &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2932">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(November 1956 &#8211; April 1957: Young Romance #85 &#8211; #87, Young Love #73, Young Brides #30, All For Love #1)</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2945" title="Number of Romance titles 1947 - 1958" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ChartYR85_87.jpg" alt="Number of Romance titles 1947 - 1958" width="500" height="309" /><br />
Number of Romance titles 1947 &#8211; 1958 (the period covered in this chapter is shaded in blue)</p>
<p>We now come to the end of the all Kirby Price romance comics and transition into a new and significantly different period of Prize Comics. Young Brides #30 (November 1956) and Young Romance #85 (December 1956) qualify as all-Kirby comics but only half of Young Love #73 (December 1956) was drawn by Kirby with the rest of the art done by Bill Draut. Unfortunately the comic book crash had finally caught up to Prize Comics. Young Love #73 and Young Brides #30 would be the final issues of those two titles although Young Love would be resurrected in 1960. At the point of cancellation Prize Comics would only be publishing three titles; Young Romance, Justice Traps the Guilty and Prize Comics Western. Since all were bi-monthlies this was a rather small line-up even for such a small company.</p>
<p>Starting with issue #86, Young Romance was a very changed title. The annual postal statements still listed Joe Simon and Jack Kirby as the editors but whatever working arrangement the two had it clearly was not the same as before. Kirby had started doing freelance work for DC and Atlas while Simon was doing some editorial work for Harvey Comics. Most, but not all, issues would include art drawn by Jack Kirby. Previously cover art was typically done by Kirby alone but now most covers would be done by other artists. The biggest change that came over the title was the largely complete absence of the earlier S&amp;K Studio artists. Artists who previously played prominent rolls in the title such as Bill Draut, Mort Meskin, John Prentice and Bob McCarty would never again appear in Young Romance. The fact that some of these artists would show up in Prize romance titles not edited by Simon and Kirby suggests that there may have been some hard feelings between the artists and their former employers.</p>
<p>The change in Prize Comics was not a complete retreat but rather a reorganization. In April 1957 Prize came out with a new romance title, All For Love. It may seem strange to cancel two romance titles only to start up a new one. The answer is suggested by the Postal Statements which list Joe Genalo as the editor for All For Love. Prize not only wanted a new title, they particularly did not want Simon and Kirby to produce it.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2944" title="Young Romance #85" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR085BackInTown.jpg" alt="Young Romance #85" width="500" height="698" /><br />
Young Romance #85 (December 1956) &#8220;Lizzie&#8217;s Back In Town&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, YR #85 was one of the issues that was drawn entirely by Jack Kirby. While the story art was often first rate, the splashes frequently left something to be desired. At least compared to the work Kirby had done in earlier years. The splash for &#8220;Lizzie&#8217;s Back In Town&#8221; is a good example of this. There is nothing wrong with the splash and granted it was probably a challenge to instill interest into some standing figures, but it was just this sort of romance splash that earlier Kirby was so good at. I suspect Kirby was just trying to do too much romance art in too little time. Some interesting splashes will be found in the future issues when Jack had returned to a more measured output of romance stories.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2943" title="Young Romance #86" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR086Reject.jpg" alt="Young Romance #86" width="500" height="733" /><br />
Young Romance #86 (February 1957) &#8220;Reject&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There are exceptions to lackluster splashes. I certainly like the one for &#8220;Reject&#8221;. This is not because of the subject matter because once again all there is are some standing figures. Nor is it the how well the art was handled; I suspect the original pencils were much better than what was left after the inker got finished with it. I think what appeals to me is the characterizations of the players; the stern central figure and the gossipers in the background. I also like the way the title of the story is placed on a placard worn by the lady.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2942" title="Young Brides #30" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YB30UnhappyHousewife.jpg" alt="Young Brides #30" width="500" height="734" /><br />
Young Brides #30 (November 1956) &#8220;The Unhappy Housewife&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There seems to have been one inker used for all the works penciled by Kirby during this period and a good portion of the art from the all-Kirby romance issues. In the past I had considered it likely that the inker was Marvin Stein. I have heard others advance Bill Draut and Joe Simon as candidates. During the review for this chapter I have come to the conclusion that I am just not sure who he was. In some places it looks like Bill Draut, other Marvin Stein or even Joe Simon. But I also feel it is quite possible that it was someone else entirely.</p>
<p>One interesting feature of the inking of the splash for &#8220;The Unhappy Housewife&#8221; is the presence of picket fence crosshatching (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). This technique was once a staple of the inking of Kirby pencils during much of the Simon and Kirby collaboration. Part of what I refer to as the Studio style inking. Picket fence crosshatching appears on some of the covers from this period but is largely absent in the stories.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2941" title="Young Romance #85" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR085ResortRomeo2.jpg" alt="Young Romance #85" width="500" height="740" /><br />
Young Romance #85 (December 1956) &#8220;Resort Romeo&#8221; page 2, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The inking of eyebrows during this period were often done in a simplified but exaggerated manner. The women in panel 5 of the page shown above is a good example. There is some resemblance between these eyebrows and those used by Bill Draut which is the main reason to suggest Draut was the inker for these Kirby pencils. Unfortunately I cannot find any other evidence to support crediting Draut as Kirby&#8217;s inker during this period. But I will return to this subject below.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2940" title="Young Romance #87" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR087RockNRoll4.jpg" alt="Young Romance #87" width="500" height="739" /><br />
Young Romance #87 (April 1957) &#8220;Rock n&#8217; Roll Sweetheart&#8221; page 4, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Note the inking of the man&#8217;s face in the last panel from page 4 of &#8220;Rock n&#8217; Roll Sweetheart&#8221;. The black shadow down one side of the face is what I refer to as negative highlights. I have never seen Bill Draut use negative highlights but Marvin Stein did and his looked very much like this example. Because the inking evidence does not consistantly suggest one inker, I have decided to no longer attribute the inking to Marvin Stein and for now leave it as an open question.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2939" title="Young Love #73" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YL73Homecoming.jpg" alt="Young Love #73" width="500" height="735" /><br />
Young Love #73 (December 1956) &#8220;Soldier&#8217;s Homecoming&#8221;, pencils and inks by Bill Draut</p>
<p>Bill Draut provided two of the four stories from the final issue of Young Love. The style is similar to that he was using just prior to the start of the all-Kirby run. However even that was somewhat different from his earlier work. This is most notably seen in the clothing folds which earlier had been somewhat splotchy but now where cleaner and more streamlined.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2938" title="Young Romance #86" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/YR086EasyWayOut.jpg" alt="Young Romance #86" width="500" height="737" /><br />
Young Romance #86 (February 1957) &#8220;I Took The Easy Way Out&#8221;, art by unidentified artist</p>
<p>The first issue (YR #87) of Young Romance after the cancellation of Young Love and Young Brides had only a single Kirby story. Oddly the other three stories were all done by the same artist. He is not a bad artist, but I do not believe I have seen him in a Simon and Kirby production before. It is a puzzle why he suddenly achieved such dominance in this romance title.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2937" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01DreamWedding.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="697" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;Dream Wedding&#8221;, art by Bill Draut</p>
<p>As mentioned above, the new Prize romance title All For Love, was not produced by Simon and Kirby. One of the things I will be looking for in future chapters of the Art of Romance was whether the same artists would appear in Young Romance and the Prize titles that were not produced by Simon and Kirby. One artist that shows up in the first issue is Bill Draut. Not only does Draut provide a story but he did the cover art as well. Here Bill is working in the same style we saw Young Romance #86 (February 1957).</p>
<p>Bill had also been appearing in some of the Harvey romance titles at this time which I believe were edited by Joe Simon. But it is unclear whether these were new stories or reprints of older material. In any case work by Draut for Harvey would end at this same time. Draut would not work with Joe Simon on comics until 1966. Bill did work on Sick but right now I am not sure when that was.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2936" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01HallowVictory3.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="740" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; page 3, art by Mort Meskin?</p>
<p>There are two stories in All For Love #1 that I am somewhat uncertain about. I some ways &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; reminds me of the work of Mort Meskin. The way the eyebrows are inked might suggest Bill Draut but the story lacks any of Draut&#8217;s mannerisms of graphically telling the story, in particular the body language depicted and how the use of view points. Meskin is a better fit in just these graphic qualities. However if this was drawn by Mort I am certain it was not inked by him. Some of the inking reminds me of the unidentified inker for Kirby that I discussed above.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2935" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01MyWishfulHeart.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="737" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;My Wishful Heart&#8221;, art by Bill Draut?</p>
<p>&#8220;My Wishful Heart&#8221; is the other story that I questionably attribute to Mort Meskin. Although not identical to &#8220;Hollow Triumph&#8221; it is close enough to suggest it was done by the same artist.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2933" title="All For Love #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AFL01CheatingMyself.jpg" alt="All For Love #1" width="500" height="740" /><br />
All For Love #1 (April 1957) &#8220;I Was Only Cheating Myself&#8221;, art by Ted Galindo</p>
<p>The only other romance artist from this period that I can identify other than Jack Kirby, Bill Draut and possibly Mort Meskin was Ted Galindo. Ted does a real nice job on his romance stories. His women are attractive and his art style more modern than most of the artists that I have discussed so far. Galindo&#8217;s use of changing viewpoints keeps his stories graphically interesting. we will be seeing more of his work</p>
<p>We are now coming into the final period covered by the Art of Romance. It was always my intention to take this serial post up to 1960. However I am really uncertain how many chapters remain. Frankly overall I find the Prize romance titles from this point on the least interesting of the series. If not for the presence of Jack Kirby I might be tempted to cover it in some future serial post. But there is some really great Kirby art, much of it inked by Jack himself. Plus some other interesting artists appeared from time to time.</p>
<p><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1134">Chapter 1, A New Genre (YR #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1138">Chapter 2, Early Artists (YR #1 &#8211; #4)<br />
</a><a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1173">Chapter 3, The Field No Longer Their’s Alone (YR #5 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1248">Chapter 4, An Explosion of Romance (YR #9 &#8211; #12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1260">Chapter 5, New Talent (YR #9 &#8211; 12, YL #1 &#8211; #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1336">Chapter 6, Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1348">Chapter 7, More Love on the Range (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1359">Chapter 8, Kirby on the Range? (RWR #1 &#8211; #7, WL #1 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1467">Chapter 9, More Romance (YR #13 &#8211; #16, YL #5 &#8211; #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1538">Chapter 10, The Peak of the Love Glut (YR #17 &#8211; #20, YL #7 &#8211; #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1710">Chapter 11, After the Glut (YR #21 &#8211; #23, YL #9 &#8211; #10)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1759">Chapter 12, A Smaller Studio (YR #24 – #26, YL #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1804">Chapter 13, Romance Bottoms Out (YR #27 – #29, YL #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1863">Chapter 14, The Third Suspect (YR #30 – #32, YL #18 – #20)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1874">Chapter 15, The Action of Romance (YR #33 – #35, YL #21 – #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1926">Chapter 16, Someone Old and Someone New (YR #36 – #38, YL #24 – #26)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1949">Chapter 17, The Assistant (YR #39 – #41, YL #27 – #29)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2120">Chapter 18, Meskin Takes Over (YR #42 – #44, YL #30 – #32)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2178">Chapter 19, More Artists (YR #45 – #47, YL #33 – #35)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2238">Chapter 20, Romance Still Matters (YR #48 – #50, YL #36 – #38, YB #1)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2283">Chapter 21, Roussos Messes Up (YR #51 – #53, YL #39 – #41, YB #2 – 3)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2332">Chapter 22, He’s the Man (YR #54 – #56, YL #42 – #44, YB #4)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2379">Chapter 23, New Ways of Doing Things (YR #57 – #59, YL #45 – #47, YB #5 – #6)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2410">Chapter 24, A New Artist (YR #60 – #62, YL #48 – #50, YB #7 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2436">Chapter 25, More New Faces (YR #63 – #65, YLe #51 – #53, YB #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2477">Chapter 26, Goodbye Jack (YR #66 – #68, YL #54 – #56, YB #12 – #14)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2497">Chapter 27, The Return of Mort (YR #69 – #71, YL #57 – #59, YB #15 – #17)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2533">Chapter 28, A Glut of Artists (YR #72 – #74, YL #60 – #62, YB #18 &amp; #19, IL #1 &amp; #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2702">Chapter 29, Trouble Begins (YR #75 – #77, YL #63 – #65, YB #20 – #22, IL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2809">Chapter 30, Transition (YR #78 – #80, YL #66 – #68, YBs #23 – #25, IL #6, ILY #7)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2839">Chapter 30, Appendix (YB #23)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2841">Chapter 31, Kirby, Kirby and More Kirby (YR #81 – #82, YL #69 – #70, YB #26 – #27)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2887">Chapter 32, The Kirby Beat Goes On (YR #83 – #84, YL #71 – #72, YB #28 – #29)</a><br />
Chapter 33, End of an Era (YR #85 – #87, YL #73, YB #30, AFL #1)<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2989">Chapter 34, A New Prize Title (YR #88 – #91, AFL #2 – #5, PL #1 – #2)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3008">Chapter 35, Settling In ( YR #92 – #94, AFL #6 – #8, PL #3 – #5)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3021">Appendix, J.O. Is Joe Orlando</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3026">Chapter 36, More Kirby (YR #95 – #97, AFL #9 – #11, PL #6 – #8)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3047">Chapter 37, Some Surprises (YR #98 – #100, AFL #12 – #14, PL #9 – #11)</a><br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/3102">Chapter 38, All Things Must End (YR #101 &#8211; #103, AFL #15 &#8211; #17, PL #12 &#8211; #14)</a></p>
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		<title>Questions on Some Inking in Adventures of the Fly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently posted on the initial issues of the Adventures of the Fly (here and here). There are still unidentified artists that penciled those issues (and more in the two Fly issues that followed). Identifying inkers is an even &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2678">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently posted on the initial issues of the Adventures of the Fly (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2580">here</a> and <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2592">here</a>). There are still unidentified artists that penciled those issues (and more in the two Fly issues that followed). Identifying inkers is an even bigger challenged particularly because I am not that familiar with the brushwork of most of the possible inkers. However I recently noticed some inking in the Adventures of the Fly that was very familiar.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2685" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2SneakAttack2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="1092" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; page 2 (part), pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>When I last wrote about <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2592">&#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221;</a> I attributed the pencils to Joe Simon. Well that was not the complete attribution. The bottom of the second page was an advertisement for the other Archie superhero comic, Double Life of Private Strong. The only art the ad contains is a standing figure of Private Strong changing into the Shield. It seems clear that the art was drawn by Jack Kirby. It is odd that the story and ad were done by different artists. I have studied the original art from Joe Simon&#8217;s collection and I can assure the reader that no cut and paste was performed to accomplish this.</p>
<p>The inking for the ad was really nicely done but unfortunately the details of which are obscured by rather poor printing. It is hard to see but the inner sides of both thighs were inked using picket fence crosshatching (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). The good news is that in the upcoming Simon and Kirby Superheroes volume from Titan &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; and the other stories I will be discussing here will be restored from the original art. Similarly robust picket fence brushwork was one of the characteristics of what I refer to as the Studio Style inking used during the Simon and Kirby collaboration. Not only did both Joe and Jack use this technique at that time but Mort Meskin did as well. I think, however, we can dismiss Meskin as the possible inker for the ad because he was no longer working with either Kirby or Simon and the inking here is a bit more spontaneous than was normal for Mort.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2682" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MarcosEyes1closeup.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="352" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; splash (part), pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The spotting of the large figure of the Fly in the double page splash for &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes is more finely worked than typical for either Simon or Kirby although either of them was certainly capable of it. Actually it is more finely worked than the inking found in any of the Fly art. So far I have not identified any brushwork in the figure that helps in determining an inking attribution.</p>
<p><img title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MarcosEyes4.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="715" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; page 4, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The story art for &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; shows an important characteristic that was typical of Studio style inking, what I refer to as shoulder blots (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/inking-glossary">Inking Glossary</a>). It is prominently shown in panels 2, 3 and 5 from page 4 but occurs elsewhere in the story as well. Numerous inkers have provided their shoulders with shadows but shoulder blots are distinct in that they occur on both shoulders regardless of how a shadow would expect to be cast. So far I have only seen Joe Simon and Jack Kirby make use of shoulder blots in their inking.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2681" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF2MasterOfJunkRiLa2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="718" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; page 2, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>There are no shoulder blots in &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; unless the shadow in panel 4 from page 2 is counted as one (but I am not inclined to do so). There are, however, a number of examples of course picket fence crosshatching. The first panel from page 2 shows a scallop pattern to the shadow on the boy&#8217;s arm. This scallop inking frequently showed up in Kirby&#8217;s inking. But the inking of the eyes and eyebrows of the boy look very much like the work of Simon.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2679" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AF1ComeIntoMyParlor1pn3_4.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="250" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221; story panels 3 and 4 from the double page splash, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>The double page splash and accompanying story panels of &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221; also contains what looks like Studio style inking. Particularly note the spotting of the sailor from story panels 3 and 4. Observe the two cloth folds on the man&#8217;s shoulder in panel 4. These cloth folds show no indication of the tip of the brush which is a technique that was typical of Kirby&#8217;s inking. I am less convinced about the inking of the rest of the story. It should be kept in mind that it was common during the Simon and Kirby collaboration for Kirby to be involved with the spotting of the splash and leave the rest of the story to other inkers.</p>
<p>Studio style inking techniques are not limited to the four stories that I have discussed here. But their occurrence elsewhere in the first two issues of Adventures of the Fly seems limited to what looks like touch-ups of the work by other inkers. Such touch-up were almost certainly the work of Simon since Kirby was then a freelancer working from his house.</p>
<p>I only become confident about inking attributions after I have &#8220;lived&#8221; with them for some time. However it is my policy to present my current views in this blog even if they are likely to be subject to change. At this time I believe &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221; was inked by Joe Simon. I am also fairly certain that Jack Kirby inked the splash pages of &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221;. I am less confident about the inking attributions for the ad from &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; or &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;. I currently am crediting Kirby for that inking but I am bother about the frequent appearance of the tip of the brush in the inking which previously was not typical for Kirby although it was for Simon.</p>
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		<title>More Kirby Krackle</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby In a comment to my previous post (Kirby Krackle) Ger Apeldoorn remarked on the existence of another Kirby Krackle prototype. Unfortunately Ger was unable &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2610">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2613" title="Tales of the Unexpected #18" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KirbyKrackleTU18_1.jpg" alt="Tales of the Unexpected #18" width="500" height="677" /><br />
Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221;, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>In a comment to my previous post (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2600">Kirby Krackle</a>) Ger Apeldoorn remarked on the existence of another Kirby Krackle prototype. Unfortunately Ger was unable to provide the specific comic that it appeared in. Perhaps he meant the one that was recently brought to my attention (thanks CL), &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; from Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957). The Kirby Krackle prototype also appears on the cover (which Kirby did as well) but I find the splash page a better example of this technique. I have previously dismissed some of the supposed Kirby Krackle prototypes (based on techniques used to indicate smoke), but how does this new (for me) contender stack up? Well it is composed of rounded (but not circular) spots, there is a tendency to form clusters, they are meant to depict energy (although more of a simmering than a high energy) and there is a cosmic connection (he is after all an alien). So while it is not perfect Kirby Krackle it is so close to the real thing that it makes a perfect prototype.</p>
<p>When I wrote a serial post on Kirby&#8217;s Austere and related inking styles I included a chapter on his DC work (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/897">Jack Kirby&#8217;s Austere Inking, Chapter 7</a>). Unfortunately at the time I had access to a limited portion of that work and so I could only make some provisional conclusions. Now I am able to examine a much better selection of Kirby&#8217;s DC material but I have yet to do a careful review so my observations must still be considered as tentative. My belief is that the art for &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; as well of the cover was inked by Jack Kirby himself. Perhaps the best indications that this was Kirby&#8217;s inking can be found in the last panel of the image provided above. Observe the rather blunt but well controlled brushwork, the scalloped inking pattern own the man&#8217;s shoulder and the use of short brushwork arranged into strings. So the credit, if the reader accepts this as a true Kirby Krackle prototype, belongs to Kirby.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2612" title="Tales of the Unexpected #18" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KirbyKrackleTU18_3_5.jpg" alt="Tales of the Unexpected #18" width="450" height="430" /><br />
Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; page 3 panel 5, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>As I described above, the Kirby Krackle prototype surrounding the alien figure is used to describe a simmering energy and not the high energy that true Kirby Krackle depicts. The lower energy level drawn by Jack is quite appropriate for his subject. However the story includes art where much higher energy levels are shown, as for example the panel from page 3 shown above. As can be seen this Kirby Krackle prototype is even closer to the real thing. The dots are more irregular in size and they form more obvious clusters. Personally I cannot see how anyone could claim this is not a perfectly good prototype from which true Krackle was developed.</p>
<p><img title="Tales of the Unexpected #18" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/KirbyKrackleTU18_5_5.jpg" alt="Tales of the Unexpected #18" width="450" height="408" /><br />
Tales of the Unexpected #18 (October 1957) &#8220;The Man Who Collected Planets&#8221; page 5 panel 5, art by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>I cannot resist providing another panel to show that my previous example of the Kirby Krackle prototype was no accident. While I fully accept this as a prototype, that by no means negates my claim that the example I provided from Captain 3-D (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2600">Kirby Krackle</a>) was a Krackle prototype. Far from it, I believe it only strengthens my claim. The DC example is just what would be expected as a step intermediate between the earlier Captain 3-D (1954) and the full blown Krackle that Jack started using in 1968. Only small changes needed to go from the primitive version from Captain 3-D to the better (but still not perfect) version in the DC story. This means that I still maintain that Joe Simon was probably responsible for originating what would later become called Kirby Krackle.</p>
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		<title>Adventures of the Fly, the Second Issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Tim O&#8217;Casey&#8217;s Wrecking Crew&#8221;, pencils by unidentified artist If a young boy can be transformed into a fully costumed adult superhero with a magic ring, why not have a leprechaun as an opponent? &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2592">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2598" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2WreckingCrew.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="707" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Tim O&#8217;Casey&#8217;s Wrecking Crew&#8221;, pencils by unidentified artist</p>
<p>If a young boy can be transformed into a fully costumed adult superhero with a magic ring, why not have a leprechaun as an opponent? Not strange enough? Well then give the leprechaun some giant robots to play with. The only thing missing in this delightful story is Jack Kirby. Too bad because I am sure Jack would have added his own personal touches and transformed it into a masterpiece.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2597" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2IsMissing3.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="708" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;One of Our Skyscrapers is Missing&#8221; page 3, pencils by Al Williamson</p>
<p>Al Williamson was already a talented comic artist when he did &#8220;One of Our Skyscrapers is Missing&#8221; for this issue. And I have little doubt that he did this story. The various monsters that inhabit these pages all possess the Williamson touch. If Williamson was working from layouts, he took great liberties with them. His panel layouts are the most interesting ones found in either the Shield or the Fly. Further his artwork is far superior to the other artists working on the Archie superheroes that I have reviewed so far with the sole exception of Jack Kirby. That said the art for this story is really far below his best efforts. The work Al did for Race for the Moon the previous year was much superior.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2596" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2SneakAttack1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>&#8220;Sneak Attack&#8221; is another of the pieces that generally get attributed to Jack Kirby but were actually drawn by Joe Simon. The reason for this misattribution is a credit to Joe&#8217;s skills at mimicking Jack&#8217;s style, often with the help of plenty of swipes. The pilot with the funny head gear was swiped from Kirby&#8217;s &#8220;Hot Box&#8221; (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/715">Foxhole #2</a>). However it shows that Joe is not just copying Kirby as the head is in full frontal view instead of the 3/4 profile that Jack drew.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2595" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MarcosEyesS.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="356" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MarcosEyesL.jpg">Larger Image</a></p>
<p>It is an old theme, but Kirby frequently returns to previous themes and improves upon them. In this case it is the idea of a stage performer using his power of hypnosis as a means of conducting crime. The earliest predecessor was probably an untitled story about sometimes called &#8220;Sando and Omar&#8221; from Captain America #1 (March 1941). &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221; has some nice art and all in all a good effort, but certainly not among the better Simon and Kirby&#8217;s work. The double page splash is perhaps the weakest that S&amp;K ever did. This is unfortunate since it is also the last the two would work on together.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2593" title="Adventures of the Fly #2" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF2MasterOfJunkRiLa1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #2" width="500" height="717" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #2 (September 1959) &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>While I would hardly call &#8220;The Master of Junk-Ri-La a masterpiece, it is a much better work than &#8220;Marco&#8217;s Eyes&#8221;. It does however contain some humor that might not be appreciated by many modern superhero fans used to bleaker tales. For instance the villain uses a giant fly swatter against the Fly.</p>
<p>The two stories in Adventures of the Fly #2 would be the last collaboration between Joe Simon and Jack Kirby for many years. The Jack Kirby Checklist includes &#8220;Muggy&#8217;s Masterpiece&#8221; from Adventures of the Fly #4 but that is clearly incorrect. Even the way the Archie superheroes were created made them more of a Simon effort than a Kirby one. Still the two had worked together in one form or another for a period of about 18 years. There may have been other comic book collaborations that were longer but there were none there were better. Or at least that is my opinion. But I may be biased; after all this is the Simon and Kirby Blog.</p>
<p>Since this is Kirby&#8217;s last work on the Fly I thought I would briefly touch on the part that it played in the creation of Spider-Man. Others have written in great depths about this issue but here I will only provide a brief outline of the events. Joe Simon, C. C. Beck and Jack Oleck got together in 1953 or 1954 to create a new superhero. Initially the name Spiderman was considered and Joe even created a logo using that name, but in the end the character was called the Silver Spider. Joe took the initial artwork by Beck and pitched the idea to Harvey Comics but they declined to publish it. Years later Archie Comics approached Simon to create some new superheroes and Joe came up with a new Shield and the Fly. Joe retrieved Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider art work from Harvey and sent it off to Jack to use as reference when he drew most of the art for the initial issues published in 1959. In 1962 Stan Lee worked initially with Kirby to create Spider-Man but in the end turned to Steve Ditko to provide the art. The work that Kirby did on Spider-Man has never been published but Ditko later described Kirby&#8217;s version as looking like the Fly.</p>
<p>The main source of contention about the creation of Spider-Man concerns not so much the history as the interpretation of that history. The most common subject of disagreement is whether Stan Lee and Steve Ditko should be considered the joint creators or if Jack Kirby should be included as well. While I have provided a broad history behind the creation of Spider-Man that I believe most comic scholars would largely accept there are numerous details that scholars seem unable to agree on. Even as simple a concept as the term creator turns out to have very different meanings depending on who is using it. I will not try to advance my own opinion as to who should be credited for creating Spider-Man. I prefer to let each reader come to their own conclusions. But I find it incomprehensible how some insist on crediting Jack Kirby as a Spider-Man creator while excluding Joe Simon.</p>
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		<title>Adventures of the Fly, the First Issue</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Strange New World of the Fly&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby Recently I posted about Jack Kirby&#8217;s work on the origin story of Private Strong, aka the Shield. In Adventures of the Fly &#8230; <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2580">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/FlgPage1.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="655" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Strange New World of the Fly&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>Recently I posted about Jack Kirby&#8217;s work on the origin story of Private Strong, aka the Shield. In Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) Jack also had the honors of doing the same for the other new Archie hero, the Fly. Only in this case Kirby based the story on art that C. C. Beck did for the unpublished Silver Spider. Some have called the Silver Spider a Simon and Kirby creation but that simply is not true. Kirby had nothing to do with the Silver Spider which was a creation of Joe Simon, C. C. Beck and Jack Oleck. When I previously discussed the Silver Spider (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/183">The End of Simon &amp; Kirby, Chapter 10, A Fly in the Mix</a>) I dated this creation as 1953. To be honest I no longer remember where I got that date but it is not an unreasonable one. This would put it during the time of the Simon and Kirby collaborations but in &#8220;The Comic Book Maker&#8221; Joe writes about how the Silver Spider was created as a favor to Beck. An examination of xerox copies of the original art confirms Kirby&#8217;s absence.</p>
<p>Tommy Troy was an orphan like Lancelot Strong but the resemblance ends there. We meet Tommy in an orphanage but he ends up hired out to an elderly couple. Not kindly Kent-like farmers, but a mean, elderly couple with a reputation of dabbling in magic. Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider story had included a genie to add an element of humor, but Kirby has dispensed with him. However concept of a young boy who transforms into an adult superhero was Beck&#8217;s who repeated it from Captain Marvel.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2585" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1TheFlyStrikes1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="718" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>Just like in Private Strong, the origin story for the Fly is actually told in a series of separate stories. The first one ends with the Tommy Troy being given a magic ring and transforming into the Fly. The second, &#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221;, tells of the Fly&#8217;s first combat against criminals. This second story is actually based on the end of the origin story that Beck drew.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Fly Strikes&#8221; is generally credited to Jack Kirby but I am not convinced. I suspect that it is another case of Joe Simon swiping from and imitating Kirby. Joe was particularly good at doing this. Note the Fly peering into the window in the second story panel. This is a swipe from Fighting American #1 (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1797">Captain America Returns</a>). I have no indications that Kirby was working from layouts in the stories that he did for this issue. Nor do I believe Jack would bother to swipe from himself. Why would he when he could do it much faster without a swipe? So as I said I believe this story was actually done by Simon.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2584" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1BuzzGun1.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="708" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Buzz Gun&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby</p>
<p>While the origin story came from Beck&#8217;s Silver Spider and the Fly&#8217;s powers seemed to be based on directives from Joe Simon, the Fly&#8217;s costume is derived from the Night Fighter, a Simon and Kirby creation that was considered for Joe and Jack&#8217;s publishing company, Mainline, but never used (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1006">Night Fighter, an Abandoned Superhero</a>). Two characteristics stand out. One was the goggles. Similar eyewear appeared in the Black Owl from 1940 and 1941 (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/2468">Simon and Kirby&#8217;s Black Owl</a>). The presence of these goggles in two superheroes with a night theme suggests they were meant to be an aid for seeing in the dark. Of course such night vision would not be that appropriate for the Fly nor is it a power that the Fly ever used. Perhaps the eyewear was nothing more then a visual reference to the insect&#8217;s compound eyes or perhaps Jack saw no reason to remove them when he based the Fly&#8217;s costume on that of the Night Fighter.</p>
<p>One of the other features that the Fly inherited from the Night Fighter was a pistol of some kind. All that remains of the art for Night Fighter are two unfinished covers and neither offers any clues as to what use the pistol was put to. My guess is that it was for shooting a wire for scaling buildings such as that used by the Sandman, another superhero that Simon and Kirby worked on during the war. While a wirepoon might be a useful device for the Night Fighter it would be rather superfluous for a superhero like the Fly who is able to walk up walls. Well in &#8220;Buzz Gun&#8221; Kirby shows how the Fly&#8217;s pistol is used. It makes a noise! Oh well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Adventures of the Fly" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/splashfly1s.jpg" alt="" width="550" height="385" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Come Into My Parlor&#8221;, pencils by Jack Kirby<br />
<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/splashfly1l.jpg">Larger Image</a></p>
<p>Jack Kirby&#8217;s last chapter for the origin story opens with a spectacular double page splash. The title exclaims &#8220;for the first time in comics: the wide angel scream&#8221;. Of course this really was not the first use of a double page splash a subject that I covered in a still unfinished serial post (<a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/category/serial-posts/wide-angle-scream">The Wide Angle Scream</a>). The chances are that none of the Fly readers had seen any of Simon and Kirby&#8217;s earlier uses. While Simon and Kirby did not originate the double page splash, nobody else did it better. Further by 1959 the wide splash was no longer used by anyone. I can imagine the impression the centerfold splash made for potential buyers of the comic. How could they resist. I am sure I would not have. I would have been 9 at the time but sometime around that period I had read some of the DC superhero comics. I found them boring and had given up on comics for a while. Unfortunately I never saw any of the Simon and Kirby creations.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2583" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1Triangle.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="373" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Sign of the Triangle&#8221;, art by Joe Simon</p>
<p>The Jack Kirby Checklist includes this among the work that Kirby did for this issue but I am not convinced. To me it looks like Simon did the drawing. However this confusion is really understandable because the illustration appears to be a swipe from the cover of <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/559">Foxhole #3</a> (February 1955) which had be drawn by Kirby. It is not an exact copy, but I do not believe Simon ever did exact copies. The inking looks like Joe did that as well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2582" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1Search2.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="711" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;The Search&#8221;, pencils by Joe Simon</p>
<p>I may not be confident about attributing the illustration for &#8220;Sign of the Triangle&#8221; to Simon but there seems little doubt that Joe did the two page Shield promotional piece called &#8220;The Search&#8221;. This one is full of swipes from art by Kirby. For instance the man being punched through a wall and then left hanging was from the origin story in Fighting American #1 (April 1954, <a href="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/archives/1797">Captain America Returns</a>). Note that while Joe follows pretty closely the man stuck in the wall he has added the man&#8217;s face for the punching image which Jack had cut off by the panel edge.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2581" title="Adventures of the Fly #1" src="http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/AF1MagicEye.jpg" alt="Adventures of the Fly #1" width="500" height="717" /><br />
Adventures of the Fly #1 (August 1959) &#8220;Magic Eye&#8221;, pencils by George Tuska?</p>
<p>The final story is completely independent from the Fly origin and done by another artist, I believe it is George Tuska. I questionably attributed some work from Private Strong #2 to George as well; let us see if some of my more knowledgeable readers will agree with me on this one as well. This is another example where I do not see any obvious swipes of Kirby.</p>
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